drinkinthepark
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Caleb: I call myself a drummer but Nathan's a fuckin' drummer
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Post by drinkinthepark on Sept 22, 2008 8:56:36 GMT
Sorry to be a doosh but are we just discussing individual songs in threads of their own or is there a thread for talking about the whole album as there was when it was leaked. I have looked sorry.....anyone?  |
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Post by sexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on Sept 22, 2008 10:36:09 GMT
There are a few topics out there, but I'll say mine right here.
I dislike the album. I'm not going into it too much because what's the point? It's just the sloooooow peculiar sound that I don't like and not get yet. Maybe I will some day. I could one day just think, OMG I get it now, I am in love.
I'll have to listen to it frequently, but I just don't feel like it. The rawlessness and the lack of 'rock' keeps me skeptical. I don't feel these tears of emotion that many speak of.
I like to rock out and get emotional doing just that.
I'll always cherish their previous work.
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Post by kim111 on Sept 22, 2008 10:38:54 GMT
im in love with it caleb sounds amazing. im kinda too excited to give any further opinion.
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Post by SozzellLovesKOL on Sept 22, 2008 10:42:57 GMT
There are a few topics out there, but I'll say mine right here. I dislike the album. I'm not going into it too much because what's the point? It's just the sloooooow peculiar sound that I don't like and not get yet. Maybe I will some day. I could one day just think, OMG I get it now, I am in love. I'll have to listen to it frequently, but I just don't feel like it. The rawlessness and the lack of 'rock' keeps me skeptical. I don't feel these tears of emotion that many speak of. I like to rock out and get emotional doing just that. I'll always cherish their previous work. I agree completely! And when I started listening to it I was all excited, but as it got further in, from about 17, I was just like what the hell is this? It doesn't have anywhere near as much emotion or that special KOL personality that all there other stuff has, in my opinion. And I don't get why everyone was raving about Cold Desert! Saying it's better than Arizona! No way! But again, just my opinion  Basically, you can tell it's rushed  But we'll see, I'm sure it'll grow... |
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Post by sexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on Sept 22, 2008 11:07:34 GMT
There are a few topics out there, but I'll say mine right here. I dislike the album. I'm not going into it too much because what's the point? It's just the sloooooow peculiar sound that I don't like and not get yet. Maybe I will some day. I could one day just think, OMG I get it now, I am in love. I'll have to listen to it frequently, but I just don't feel like it. The rawlessness and the lack of 'rock' keeps me skeptical. I don't feel these tears of emotion that many speak of. I like to rock out and get emotional doing just that. I'll always cherish their previous work. I agree completely! And when I started listening to it I was all excited, but as it got further in, from about 17, I was just like what the hell is this? It doesn't have anywhere near as much emotion or that special KOL personality that all there other stuff has, in my opinion. And I don't get why everyone was raving about Cold Desert! Saying it's better than Arizona! No way! But again, just my opinion Basically, you can tell it's rushed But we'll see, I'm sure it'll grow... Hi, I was looking for you about some exalting. Glad you popped out of nowhere  I had the...'what the hell is this' earlier than 17. Cold desert doesn't do near as much for me as Arizona. Heck no. Funny thing about the whole rushed thing many use to justify their (slight or suppressed) dislike: Many of the best albums out there are so good because they actually were rushed. Like most of the classics are not at all thought about throughly or overanalized. YAYM was rushed too right? I f* love that album. |
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Post by aha shake pepscake on Sept 22, 2008 11:07:30 GMT
I love it. I think it has so much emotion and honesty about it, and you can really tell how talented they've all become, musically. I guess that's what bothers people, that the rawness is gone, but I like it. I can't compare it to ASH or YAYM 'cause they're all great albums but in different ways.
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Post by SozzellLovesKOL on Sept 22, 2008 11:16:18 GMT
^^Ahh, very true I guess it can go either way, be a really good album, or a bit of a mess up. It's all a matter of opinion reallr isn't it? You can't please everyone, right?! I think people tend to use that as an excuse just 'cause the guys said they rushed it anyways. Then again they said it was there favorite album! The new album is always gonna be the favorite though really. Oh god, I'm rambling! I just have to say this, I'm getting used to all the other songs, but not Notion or 17! They BOTH sound like christmas song! Gahh... I love it. I think it has so much emotion and honesty about it, and you can really tell how talented they've all become, musically. I guess that's what bothers people, that the rawness is gone, but I like it. I can't compare it to ASH or YAYM 'cause they're all great albums but in different ways. Really, Peps? I thought apart from Caleb, this album doesn't show off the other boys talents any more than BOTT, if not less! Saying that, after watching vid 22, I feel differently about the whole ambum, let alone Cold Desert |
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Post by sharon on Sept 22, 2008 11:27:18 GMT
I love this album. even the ones I was"nt to sure about at first .be honet if this album does well in the u.s ,which I think it will. I would be very surprise if they would do change it for album no5 as they have already said they have 4 or5 for the next album.. I just hope they dont turn their backs on the u.k.
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Post by aha shake pepscake on Sept 22, 2008 11:29:08 GMT
I love it. I think it has so much emotion and honesty about it, and you can really tell how talented they've all become, musically. I guess that's what bothers people, that the rawness is gone, but I like it. I can't compare it to ASH or YAYM 'cause they're all great albums but in different ways. Really Peps? I thought apart from Caleb, this album doesn't show off the other boys talents very much. Saying that, after watching vid 22, I feel differently about the whole ambum, let alone Cold Desert. I'm no musician myself so I don't know, but that's just the feeling i get. I remember thinking that when they played Crawl at Roskilde too, it's just... i don't know. Something different about this album. I have no idea what I'm trying to say now but I'll try anyway. It's like YAYM and ASH was just a little bit of everything, it was fun, raw, manly and all that. BOTT was experimenting, trying new stuff, and OBTN is the calm after the storm. They've tried everything and maybe it's not that fun anymore. And somehow, I care for the band, like in a... personal way. I want them to be healthy and happy, you know? I wouldn't have wanted them to make 5 more YAYM-style albums, 'cause it feels like with OBTN they've calmed down... and yes it is more produced but why is that such a bad thing? They still write their own songs and it's their feelings and experiences we're listening too. And when I listen to songs like Use Somebody and Cold Desert I almost want to cry 'cause I know it's so sincere, and it's what Caleb (or all of them) was feeling back then. So yeah I don't know... this album just makes me happy 'cause it feels like they're happy now. Maybe that's just what they're trying to make you feel when listening to the album or whatever, or it's the home movies making me all emotional and stuff but... bah. I like it. And I can't wait to see which way they're going with their next album. |
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Post by SozzellLovesKOL on Sept 22, 2008 11:36:16 GMT
I'm no musician myself so I don't know, but that's just the feeling i get. I remember thinking that when they played Crawl at Roskilde too, it's just... i don't know. Something different about this album. I have no idea what I'm trying to say now but I'll try anyway. It's like YAYM and ASH was just a little bit of everything, it was fun, raw, manly and all that. BOTT was experimenting, trying new stuff, and OBTN is the calm after the storm. They've tried everything and maybe it's not that fun anymore. And somehow, I care for the band, like in a... personal way. I want them to be healthy and happy, you know? I wouldn't have wanted them to make 5 more YAYM-style albums, 'cause it feels like with OBTN they've calmed down... and yes it is more produced but why is that such a bad thing? They still write their own songs and it's their feelings and experiences we're listening too. And when I listen to songs like Use Somebody and Cold Desert I almost want to cry 'cause I know it's so sincere, and it's what Caleb (or all of them) was feeling back then. So yeah I don't know... this album just makes me happy 'cause it feels like they're happy now. Maybe that's just what they're trying to make you feel when listening to the album or whatever, or it's the home movies making me all emotional and stuff but... bah. I like it. And I can't wait to see which way they're going with their next album. Ya know Peps, you've just changed my view of the album completely, and made it so much more understandable and positive. It makes complete sense!- What you just said. I feel the same about them, personally and all. I don't know what it is, but I feel so attached to them and there music, in a way I could never feel about another band, I'm sure of it. I can't explain it! Though I'm sure you and a lot of the members on here know what I'm saying. My friends just call me obsessed and things, but it's not like that. Anyways, I'm rambling. Karma to you Peps for making me think s much more positively about this album Oh, and do you like 17? [edit] I think the reason I straight away was like 'no, this is terrible!' is 'cause I don't want to not like them, kind of. Like, I want so much to love it that I'm scared I won't. Basically, being a bit silly really!  |
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Post by aha shake pepscake on Sept 22, 2008 11:42:56 GMT
I'm no musician myself so I don't know, but that's just the feeling i get. I remember thinking that when they played Crawl at Roskilde too, it's just... i don't know. Something different about this album. I have no idea what I'm trying to say now but I'll try anyway. It's like YAYM and ASH was just a little bit of everything, it was fun, raw, manly and all that. BOTT was experimenting, trying new stuff, and OBTN is the calm after the storm. They've tried everything and maybe it's not that fun anymore. And somehow, I care for the band, like in a... personal way. I want them to be healthy and happy, you know? I wouldn't have wanted them to make 5 more YAYM-style albums, 'cause it feels like with OBTN they've calmed down... and yes it is more produced but why is that such a bad thing? They still write their own songs and it's their feelings and experiences we're listening too. And when I listen to songs like Use Somebody and Cold Desert I almost want to cry 'cause I know it's so sincere, and it's what Caleb (or all of them) was feeling back then. So yeah I don't know... this album just makes me happy 'cause it feels like they're happy now. Maybe that's just what they're trying to make you feel when listening to the album or whatever, or it's the home movies making me all emotional and stuff but... bah. I like it. And I can't wait to see which way they're going with their next album. Ya know Peps, you've just changed my view of the album completely, and made it so much more understandable and positive. It makes complete sense!- What you just said. I feel the same about them, personally and all. I don't know what it is, but I feel so attached to them and there music, in a way I could never feel about another band, I'm sure of it. I can't explain it! Though I'm sure you and a lot of the members on here know what I'm saying. My friends just call me obsessed and things, but it's not like that. Anyways, I'm rambling. Karma to you Peps for making me think s much more positively about this album Oh, and do you like 17? [edit] I think the reason I straight away was like 'no, this is terrible!' is 'cause I don't want to not like them, kind of. Like, I want so much to love it that I'm scared I won't. Basically, being a bit silly really! Haha, I'm glad I actually made any sense. I could never feel like this about another band either. And i don't think I could ever stop loving KoL, even if they started making really crappy music, 'cause I love them as people too. I was like that too first, 'cause I really didn't like Notion and 17, and I was sooo scared I was gonna hate the album I just kept telling myself I loved it but then I realized I did ahah. I'm just rambling too now but anyway, thanks for the karma, I shall give you some back when I'm restored  EDIT: Naah, I don't like 17... yet. I think every album has one of those songs you just don't like at first. But I don't know, I still don't like Trunk or Head To Toe, so we'll see! haha. |
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Post by dotthetimes on Sept 22, 2008 11:47:05 GMT
Hey drinkinthepark, don't felt sorry! After I listened "OBTN" Something popped up in my mind and said OMG! What the heck!!! And WHY? WHY? WHY? Hard to explain....
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Post by anners on Sept 22, 2008 11:48:32 GMT
I can't compare it to ASH or YAYM 'cause they're all great albums but in different ways. i think that's what you've got to do with this album, and with any of their previous albums. you cannot compare them to each other, or put them up against each other, because they are all so different. |
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Post by anners on Sept 22, 2008 11:51:32 GMT
I was like that too first, 'cause I really didn't like Notion and 17, and I was sooo scared I was gonna hate the album I just kept telling myself I loved it but then I realized I did ahah. I'm just rambling too now but anyway, thanks for the karma, I shall give you some back when I'm restored sorry about the double post but the exact same thing happened to me! i listened to 17 and Notion and i was like "umm.. what the hell is this?" and i didn't play them and was like.. urghhh. then i started playing them again, and unwillingly began to love them! i was like "no i don't want to like them!" (being silly like you Sorrell ) but. now i love all of them! haha |
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Post by claireaye on Sept 22, 2008 11:54:38 GMT
I was thinking the exact same thing before. It'd be like comparing the old Star Wars to the new ones, or the old Indiana Jones to the new one. Its just so completely different that is has to be assessed for its own merits/flaws not compared to the others.
That said I'm going to contradict myself by saying in my opinion compared to their other records it falls down. At first I was a bit disappointed. I really like some of the new stuff (for completely different reasons to why I like their old stuff) but at the same time there is some stuff that I just don't care for much at all. All bands get to the point where they've got to settle down and mature. Its just a shame that for me that usually ruins it.
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Post by sharon on Sept 22, 2008 11:57:26 GMT
I guess we well know tomorrow night what the tracks are all about when they talk about it on xfm.
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Post by aha shake pepscake on Sept 22, 2008 11:59:52 GMT
I don't think they've completely settled down though. Crawl and Sex On Fire is pretty bad ass.  |
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Post by dotthetimes on Sept 22, 2008 12:11:56 GMT
But some of the songs quite nice, like "Cold Desert" , "Revelry" and etc.
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Post by caitlin on Sept 22, 2008 12:17:41 GMT
I was like that too first, 'cause I really didn't like Notion and 17, and I was sooo scared I was gonna hate the album I just kept telling myself I loved it but then I realized I did ahah. I'm just rambling too now but anyway, thanks for the karma, I shall give you some back when I'm restored sorry about the double post but the exact same thing happened to me! i listened to 17 and Notion and i was like "umm.. what the hell is this?" and i didn't play them and was like.. urghhh. then i started playing them again, and unwillingly began to love them! i was like "no i don't want to like them!" (being silly like you Sorrell ) but. now i love all of them! haha i was the same when i first listened, i was so gutted i nearly cried oon the first listen but now i absolutely love the album "revelry" and "i want you" are my favs, lol i love the i want you lyrics |
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Post by SozzellLovesKOL on Sept 22, 2008 12:20:52 GMT
Haha, I'm glad I actually made any sense. I could never feel like this about another band either. And i don't think I could ever stop loving KoL, even if they started making really crappy music, 'cause I love them as people too. I was like that too first, 'cause I really didn't like Notion and 17, and I was sooo scared I was gonna hate the album I just kept telling myself I loved it but then I realized I did ahah. I'm just rambling too now but anyway, thanks for the karma, I shall give you some back when I'm restored EDIT: Naah, I don't like 17... yet. I think every album has one of those songs you just don't like at first. But I don't know, I still don't like Trunk or Head To Toe, so we'll see! haha. I used to like Head to Toe, but I find it kinda boring now. And I love Trunk! But I seem to be in a minority with that one, haha. I'll probably end up loving the album, infact, I know I will! I'm actually worried about Cold Desert though, I'm not going to be able to tlisten to that in public! Earlier on, by the time it had finished it looked like someone had attacked me with a mascara brush!! |
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