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Post by skatf on Nov 17, 2007 14:13:40 GMT
OK guys, I know this probably won't cause any controversy here, but there's an article in today's Guardian: music.guardian.co.uk/rock/story/0,,2211681,00.html It's rare that the Kings come off well in interviews in my opinion but this has fucked me off beyond belief. Anyone that knows me knows that I'm a huge Libs fan and I feel the Kings have been ridiculously disrespectful and just plaing WRONG and uninformed (keep reading those tabloids Jared). There are a lot of things I could say here but I won't because this is a Kings fansite and I don't want to offend anyone. Suffice to say they are being ripped apart on the Libs forum and while people are being quite nasty, there are some element of truth there too. And Caleb? Why don't you fucking get over yourself. Cocky twat. |
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Post by naomi on Nov 17, 2007 14:32:44 GMT
I think this must be the same article as I posted in the share stuff thread. I was quite surprised that they said that about the Libs cos normally they say they prefer british music...I guess they're entitled to their own opinion though. I though the rest of the article was pretty good and Caleb always comes across as a little cocky so that didn't really surprise me!
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Post by Bornagirl76 on Nov 17, 2007 16:03:54 GMT
Anyone that knows me knows that I'm a huge Libs fan and I feel the Kings have been ridiculously disrespectful and just plaing WRONG and uninformed (keep reading those tabloids Jared). Hmm..I dunno, to me they just stated their opinion on the Libs (initial glimmer of talent, the potential to be as good as the Strokes on their b-sides) - which is fair enough. I happen to agree, personally. And with the Pete thing they're basically echoing the opinion of most of the UK to be honest. It's hardly controversial. I don't think Jared actually believes Pete Doherty shot up his kitten with heroin  Though it is kinda ridiculous that they get outraged about Pete not being arrested and then go on to detail their own cocaine abuse... |
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Post by ncox10021 on Nov 17, 2007 16:24:15 GMT
WOW - I just went to the Libs forum and people are pissed! I quote:
"Everyone laughs at KOL, I dont think anyone takes them seriously as musicians. I know at certain festivals they played during the summer alot of bands were sniggering in the corner as they walked around.
Nuff said."
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"I dunno, it just kind of tells me everything about them I need to know that they’d actually buy into tabloid rumours like “injecting kittens with heroin”."
and..........
"I saw the Kings of Leon open for Dylan and they bored the shit out of me."
and................
"the kings of leon are not only mediocre, they have always acted like pretentious assholes."
Jeez. This story has all kinds of people in a twist.
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Post by Bornagirl76 on Nov 17, 2007 16:40:33 GMT
WOW - I just went to the Libs forum and people are pissed! I quote: I didn't expect anyone to actually think that Jared was serious about Pete shooting up his kitten, but they did! No wonder quite a few of those Libs fans said that though they like the Kings' music, they think they're thick as shit!  It must be a slow news day. Nobody likes to read another band slagging off their favourite band, but it's no big deal. I mean, one of those Libs fans claims Angelo Petraglia writes all their songs - everyone has misconceptions about bands, and everyone's entitled to their own opinion. I think Pete Doherty's music is aural diaorrhea but I accept that others might disagree. |
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Post by skatf on Nov 17, 2007 17:27:53 GMT
Anyone that knows me knows that I'm a huge Libs fan and I feel the Kings have been ridiculously disrespectful and just plaing WRONG and uninformed (keep reading those tabloids Jared). Hmm..I dunno, to me they just stated their opinion on the Libs (initial glimmer of talent, the potential to be as good as the Strokes on their b-sides) - which is fair enough. I happen to agree, personally. And with the Pete thing they're basically echoing the opinion of most of the UK to be honest. It's hardly controversial. I don't think Jared actually believes Pete Doherty shot up his kitten with heroin Though it is kinda ridiculous that they get outraged about Pete not being arrested and then go on to detail their own cocaine abuse... Echoing the opinion of most of the UK?? Possibly, because most people only know of Peter because of what they've read in The Sun. And they are also ignorant with regards to the penal system. Not to mention a crippling drug addiction that has made you lose nearly everything in your life. I'm not going to defend everything Peter does because some things are indefensible but I get fed up with everyone having a pop at him - especially people who've dabbled themselves. |
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Post by Bornagirl76 on Nov 17, 2007 18:25:35 GMT
Echoing the opinion of most of the UK?? Possibly, because most people only know of Peter because of what they've read in The Sun. Well yes, exactly. Because frankly he hasn't done anything for years to warrant the wider public knowing anything further. It would be great if he could give them something else to judge him on, such as some decent music, but if he's incapable of doing that due to his drug addiction then it's hardly surprising that they form their opinions based on what he presents. I agree with the Kings that the UK press's obsession with fuck-ups and addicts is bizarre. Pete's drug addiction IS tragic, but it shouldn't be fodder for the press. Everyone has been saying that for years, so I'm not quite sure why he's still getting the column inches... |
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Post by ncox10021 on Nov 17, 2007 19:06:39 GMT
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Post by skatf on Nov 17, 2007 20:38:52 GMT
Echoing the opinion of most of the UK?? Possibly, because most people only know of Peter because of what they've read in The Sun. Well yes, exactly. Because frankly he hasn't done anything for years to warrant the wider public knowing anything further. It would be great if he could give them something else to judge him on, such as some decent music, but if he's incapable of doing that due to his drug addiction then it's hardly surprising that they form their opinions based on what he presents. I agree with the Kings that the UK press's obsession with fuck-ups and addicts is bizarre. Pete's drug addiction IS tragic, but it shouldn't be fodder for the press. Everyone has been saying that for years, so I'm not quite sure why he's still getting the column inches... He's actually released two brilliant albums and his band are about to embark on their biggest tour yet - playing the exact same venues the Kings are playing and much bigger ones than most bands get to play in their entire career. Considering his drug addiction has nearly killed him and destroyed the band, I think that's pretty good going (from a career point of view, not a personal one obviously). The coke story is not a new one. |
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Post by Bornagirl76 on Nov 17, 2007 20:56:34 GMT
He's actually released two brilliant albums and his band are about to embark on their biggest tour yet - playing the exact same venues the Kings are playing and much bigger ones than most bands get to play in their entire career. Considering his drug addiction has nearly killed him and destroyed the band, I think that's pretty good going (from a career point of view, not a personal one obviously). I don't think his albums are anything approaching brilliant but of course that's a matter of personal taste. I imagine his tabloid notoriety contributes a hell of a lot to the exposure his music and tours get...but still, most people know a lot more about his drug addiction and relationships with models than they do about his music - that's fairly obvious. I just don't think it's surprising when bands/general public get incensed about the amount of press coverage someone like Pete Doherty gets. That doesn't mean I think it's all his fault - I don't. I hope he gets well and I hope he manages to make it through this tour without postponing it again. |
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Post by letter16no on Nov 17, 2007 21:00:15 GMT
In all honesty, I find all journalism to be tabloid-esque. I wanted to be a journalist until I found out that if you took a little bit of this sentence and added it to another sentence you got a good story. I'm not going to defend what KOL may or may not have said, but we all ramble on sometimes and if someone came in and spliced or edited what I said everyday I'd be in deep shit.
The Kings prefer a lot of music from Britain and they've dabbled in drugs too, so I can't completely believe what is written about them even if there are quotation marks around those words. Just a thought.
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Post by charlottehonteuse on Nov 17, 2007 21:19:14 GMT
jared shouldn't says that and the other so
i mean libertines are one of the best band from the start of 21st century so he should better shut up (sorry to be agressive)
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Post by mollysslightreturn on Nov 17, 2007 21:42:52 GMT
I don't care what their personal opinion is on Pete Doherty as an individual, but to write the Libertines off as a band makes me wanna smack Caleb in the balls. He really can come across as a petty little c*ntbag when he wants. I think I'd prefer him to just stop talking now, cos the more he speaks the less I like.
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Post by ncox10021 on Nov 17, 2007 21:44:42 GMT
^^ Caleb definitely has tude, for sure. ^^
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Post by skatf on Nov 17, 2007 21:57:36 GMT
With the exception of Matt, I think they're all guilty as hell (in the article) - the whole thing about Amy Winehouse and 'get some fucking talent' made my blood boil. They're purposely picking on people who are very fucked up indeed. How noble. For the record, I think Amy Winehouse has plenty of talent. When not shooting other people down, they spent the rest of the article bragging about how wonderful they are..........  I think I need a break from the guys for a little while. Before I become a 'former fan'. PS - I just have to say it - The Libertines had more passion, charisma, joie de vivre and uniqueness in Pete Doherty's little finger than all of the Kings and The Strokes put together. They struck a chord in me (and many others) that changed my entire life. A band like that only come along once in a generation - hell it wasn't even my generation really, but I'm so glad I got to be a part of it. |
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Post by mollysslightreturn on Nov 17, 2007 22:05:09 GMT
Woah - lets not bring the Strokes into this skatf. Please. I heart them. And they took the Libs on tour back in the day. Apart from that, as you were matey.
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Post by skatf on Nov 17, 2007 22:21:57 GMT
Hmmmmmm - yeah, I should have known that would be controversial. But I have yet to be convinced that watching a bunch of trust fund kids rehashing the past whilst looking bored shitless is anything to drool over. Sorry. I missed The Strokes bus.
But I do acknowledge they were a huge influence on The Libs so I give them credit for that.
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Post by letter16no on Nov 17, 2007 22:37:23 GMT
^ ummm? I think a lot of bands doing this "garage-rock" thing took a cue from The Velvet Underground, the Doors, and the Buzzcocks. I think that's why we enjoy some of these bands so much is b/c a lot of us are classic rock fans. So "rehashing the past"? I think tons are guilty.
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Post by ncox10021 on Nov 17, 2007 22:39:45 GMT
God I feel old. I just learned who the Libertines and Babyshambles were today whilst researching Pete Doherty. *feeling sheepish* Why can't we be born old and get younger? Yeah, that would be awesome.
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Post by talihinaruth on Nov 17, 2007 22:43:02 GMT
a very interesting article  i loved the libs albums but never got to see them live, i have however seen the strokes and thought they were amazing! pete doherty is a brilliant writer (some say poet) but he is wasting his talents (imo) my hubby went to see him in december 04 and was so upset when he returned - he thought pete would be dead by the next morning! he was so drugged up his band walked off stage and his manager had to hold him up in front of the microphone! personally i understand what the band are saying about pete, if he was a "normal" young man he would have been locked up in prison a long time ago! |
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