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Post by The Morning Seed on Dec 10, 2005 0:18:11 GMT
oh i think this has been discussed before. you said yourself you have this reputation for being kinda mean or something, so i was nervous. i want you to know that i am not tryign to offend. so when are you going to get on with your views on these songs? I said i had a reputation for being perceived as mean or someone who has mean intentions. Youll find that most of my comments arent mean if you look at them. I'm not really mean though. Its just i tend to joke around sometimes, or make sarcastic comments that people miss understand. And thats when i get nega voted and post comments like this "nooo, dont negavote me, it was a joke!!!" I still think people take things to seriously sometimes around here. I'm actually a nice guy, with alot of insight, and i enjoy things like this thread. So i hope you wont misunderstand who i am or any "mean" comments. I try not to make mean comments, and in general i dont.
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Post by mystery girl on Dec 10, 2005 1:18:09 GMT
no i comletely understand in fact i remember you saying something about getting smitted or whatever it is all the time. i exalted you to show i understand. no get on it
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Post by katietill on Dec 10, 2005 4:07:56 GMT
ummm ok you two love birds what about razz??
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Post by The Morning Seed on Dec 10, 2005 6:39:47 GMT
ummm ok you two love birds what about razz?? lol i hate you. ...just kidding... razz eh? hmm, i read over it, and i dont know how these guys are still together. I mean caleb just rags on most of them. The songs are hard to translate because they are so personal you know? I have to think some more on this.
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Post by katietill on Dec 10, 2005 17:51:23 GMT
i already did it....
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Post by tickleyourdaughter on Dec 11, 2005 4:43:26 GMT
Katietill, shake is the the"not so great part" or even "leftover" of smoking marijuana. Usually anything that is not a bud is reffered to as shake, and when trying to smoke pot, especially through a joint, or outside, it is very difficult not to drop some on the ground. (I.E. lord have mercy, shake is falling through your hands.....clumsiness)
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Post by tickleyourdaughter on Dec 11, 2005 4:57:15 GMT
Song: The Bucket Album Aha Shake Heartbreak
I’ll be the one to show you the way you’ll be the one to always complain
-Since the song is about the alterego that can be developed on the road, I think this line is very self critical. First the genuine side of Caleb, Second the "rock star" attitude.
3 in the morning come a bang, bang, bang All out of fags and I just can’t wait
-3 in the mroning may describe the hectic lifestyle, and the fags line is probably about him quitting cigarettes. (Isnt that what theyre called in England?....ironically where KOL is most popular)
Cancel the thing that I said I’d do, I don’t feel comfortable talking to you Unless you got the zipper fixed on my shoe, then I’ll be in the lobby drinking for two
I believe this whole section is Caleb describing how much of a jerk you can become on the road. The zipper line is probably about you are only willing to help others if you have something to gain from them.
18, balding, star, Golden, fallen, heart
Describing his two "sides", including his receeding hairline.
Look at the shaky’s what’s with the blush, fresh off the plane in my fuzzy rush
Fuzzy rush probably refers to alcohol but who knows...
Everyone’s gathered to idolize me, I hate the way you talk your Japanese scream
Annoyed by fans, and papparazzi here.
It’s been too long since I left the shed, you kick the bucket I’ll swing my legs Always remember the pact that we made, too young to die, but old is a grave
I think this relationship and pact he made is with himself so as not to ever become the type of person that he has or sees himself as.
I’m a gonna show the way
Maybe the way to return to a normal personality, away from his crazy life.
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Post by blackthumbnail on Dec 11, 2005 14:34:02 GMT
i'm lovin this thread. it's awesome.
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Post by katietill on Dec 12, 2005 2:36:14 GMT
good job tickle. let's do more. fags could also be... fags... am i right?
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Post by mickey o'neil on Dec 12, 2005 7:32:56 GMT
fags are cigs
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Post by natalie on Dec 12, 2005 17:35:42 GMT
Well us brits call cigarettes- fags, cigs and ciggies. But you just cant tell what he's talking about because it could be some private family joke or whatever.
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Post by californiaxwaiting on Dec 12, 2005 20:13:01 GMT
Thats true, but all "all out of fags" haha what else could that mean? Oh the possibilities. Why do we give ciggerettes such great names?
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Post by katietill on Dec 13, 2005 2:38:46 GMT
oh, wait i for some reason always thought is was "all OF THE fags..." wow that's makes a difference. yeh i guess it definitely is cigs.
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Post by cornflake on Dec 14, 2005 7:36:40 GMT
Ok, I'm going to try to tackle line by line the lyrics of Milk. A heartfelt, and metaphorically deep song.
~Lin
----------------- MILK
Salty leave, salty leave Meaning a painful goodbye that caused him or her or both of them to cry (probably a reference to himself as she seems to have left him in this relationship). Tears are very salty. The tear ducts drain into the nasal cavity; once tears enter the nasal cavity, they drain down the back of the throat. It's salty tasting.
Tell me the one about the friend you knew, Could have a few meanings. 1) Could be a sense of paranoia about a "friend" she had that he was jealous of. A possible male companion? 2) Or it could mean that one of her friends told her something bad about Caleb (his wandering eye) and he is asking what she said. 3) Could be about a conversation she had with a friend about a similar relationship to the one she had with Caleb, and how it wasn't positive because he is a "rock star". He is asking about it in general and the negative things the friend might have said.
And the last good night that we toasted too. Reminiscing about the good times they had.
Salty leave, Refer to the first line
Stay for me, stay for me Obvious plea to her to continue to be with him
We drank wine in the matinee A matinee is a social or public event held in the daytime and especially the afternoon. Most drinking doesn't happen until later on in the evening, but it seems like these two stared their drinking early. Alcohol fueled relationship? Or it could mean they both simply enjoyed wine while socializing.
And the spotlight showed what I chased away The spotlight, meaning the excess of fame showed what he did to make her leave the relationship. It could have been the fame itself that made her leave because of the person he was becoming from it; the inflation of his ego from "fame" chased her away.
Stay for me Another plea
She saw my comb over, her hour glass body Shows his vulnerability. Rumor has it that Caleb is slowly going bald. He tries to cover it through various techniques (hint: skip the hair straightener Caleb), but he must have felt comfortable enough with this woman to show her his physical flaws that he himself feels uncomfortable with. Her hourglass body is showing the sensuality and sexuality of the female form. He must have really loved her body and didn't see any physical flaws as he doesn't emphasize on any but his own.
She had problems with drinking milk (I'm going to be blatant here so I apologize before hand) Milk is a metaphor for cum. She had problems swallowing after oral sex. Usually in a relationship, if a woman swallows, it shows that she is very comfortable with the man she is with. Shows trust, love. Her having problems with this could mean that she had problems getting too close to him.
And being school tardy She had problems being late for things
She’ll loan you her toothbrush She had no problem lending him her belongings, even something as personal as a toothbrush. She felt comfortable in that sense with material items.
She’ll bartend your party She seemed like the kind of girl who would do things that would please him, and she was kind to his friends and family. It's not like she would get drunk and make a fool of herself at a party. She would socialize and have a good time, but also cater to peoples needs and make sure everyone had a good time. She seemed unselfish.
Kill me, kill me Not asking for someone to literally kill him, but because of the pain left from this relationship, he feels like there is nothing left to live for.
I called and I called, but I can’t get through No real need to explain what this means. Seems like she wanted to sever ties with him after the break up even though he wanted to try to patch things up.
She said he’s on his own, but his own is you He might have asked about this "friend" (male companion) of hers and she stated that she is not with him, he is alone. But Caleb obviously knows that truth that he is the one that is alone and girlfriendless.
Kill me Refer to the fourth last lyric
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Post by californiaxwaiting on Dec 14, 2005 17:43:47 GMT
Wow, and i've always wondered about what he meant by 'she has problems with drinking milk' thing, but that really makes sense now. I always thought she had an allergy to milk, hahaha, i suck.
This has got me thinking about the lyrics.
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Post by MrsFollowill on Dec 14, 2005 18:23:25 GMT
aw i love milk that is the cutest song
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Post by katietill on Dec 14, 2005 19:34:05 GMT
hmmmm VERY annalytical, i love it!!
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Post by lmd88 on Dec 15, 2005 0:03:06 GMT
I love that song, thanks for going in depth with it, and I too had trouble figuring out what that drinking milk was about, so thanks for straightening it out for everybody. Karma
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Post by mystery girl on Dec 15, 2005 0:19:08 GMT
i'm going to have to give caleb the benefit of the doubt and say that he was actually being literal and not reffering to any thing sexual when he says "she had problems with drinking milk"
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Post by tickleyourdaughter on Dec 15, 2005 1:54:16 GMT
Im pretty sure he is talkin bout oral sex, with drinkin milk. Why else would he add taht part? Who would care if she was lactose intolerant? I think Ill try another.... Happy Alone in honor to the website.
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