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Post by gingersnaps on Aug 30, 2009 3:02:21 GMT
All of these are good posts. I personally think the boys are just freaking tired of touring the same places all the time. For example: they went to Canada last month and had "the best audiences" ever. How long have the Canadians been begging them to come play there? Um, forever? Nothing against the British, but perhaps that market has been saturated for now. I bet the boys have a blast in Mexico. The people of Mexico have been begging them to go play there for a while now too. I bet they get huge reception there. There, that's my two cents worth. Bottom line: stop touring so much, play in places you haven't played before, take a break. I vote yes on this proposition. |
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Post by Rebelle329 on Aug 30, 2009 4:41:32 GMT
 Hmmm. I've been thinking a lot after what went down at Reading. At first, I thought that if playing SOF was going to ruin shows for the band and put them in a bad mood, they should drop it immediately. But the more I think about it, the more I'm inclined to disagree. Sex On Fire really put KOL on the map here in the US. There's no denying that. I myself became interested in the band after hearing the song. I don't think the band should be ashamed of it- it's an excellent song. I can understand how they might be tired of playing it show after show, or how they might feel like they've moved past that "sound". But the point is that they did write the song, whatever period in their musical careers they were in at the time, and it exposed them to a whole new audience. I think it would be a mistake for them to drop the song when it's been such a boost for them. They might feel torn; they don't know what to make of the fact that songs of theirs have made it mainstream, they have aquired many new fans and they're recieving more accolades than before from all sorts of media. It's a lot to take in and they probably couldn't imagine what it would be like. The truth is, without SOF, they might not be as popular as they are today. They might not have won a Grammy yet, they might not be on TV as much, they might not have sold out such big venues. There's always going to be upsides and downsides to everything, and they have to learn to take both. I know I'm going to stick around for albums to come, and I adore their past albums. SOF made me listen, and I became a big fan. I'm sure that's how it's been for many people, but I'm also sure many people are only interested for the moment. That's life. I'm happy about their success because they deserve it. They work hard to make good music and they work hard touring. Does it annoy me when I hear them on a trendy pop station? A little yeah, because I know a lot of people will never fully appreciate them. At the same time, it's an amazing feeling to think that people are FINALLY starting to listen to something new that's actually good music, even if it's just a song or two. I think they handled Reading poorly by letting their tempers take over. They should have realized that not every single person was there because they absolutely adore Kings of Leon. Festivals are a good opportunity for bands to show half-fans and non-fans what they have to offer, and draw people in. Bands and fans feed off of each other. Each has to give energy to make a show great. I'll admit I'm disappointed, but I love KOL and they're allowed to have bad days just like everyone else. I think at this point in time, the tour has probably taken quite a toll on all of them. So maybe they need a break soon. We all agree it's well-deserved.
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Post by carlylillian on Aug 30, 2009 5:41:18 GMT
Wow guys, well said - all of you! It seems I noticed this post a little later than everyone else did, and I know that I don't say too much on this site/not too many people know who I am on here, but I feel very strongly about commenting on this. I have to say, I personally agree with what a lot of you have said on here, and I'm really pleased a few of you brought up the fact that some of you were introduced to KOL with the release of SOF, but have continued to discover and appreciate all of their music. I feel like an issue that has been floating around for almost a year now is how the people who have been fans since the beginning feel that the new listeners aren't "true" fans, or only like SOF. (Just a little side note: I'm not particularly talking about on here, I don't think I ever really noticed anyone say that on here, but on other sites definitely) Obviously there are those who will only like Sex on Fire and/or Use Somebody, but as well all know from some of the people on this post today, there are those who really are die-hard fans!  I definitely fit in to that SOF/OBTN category. I had actually first heard them with the release of The Bucket and remember really liking the song, but was younger at the time (you know that age where it seems like you're listening to so many different songs/bands it feels like you've lost track? haha Or was that just me?  ) and so never REALLY got into them until their latest album. Now I'm a huge fan, I got right into them and love all their music! I got a little side-tracked there, and I feel like there's so much more I'd like to talk about that you guys have said (basically I agree with a lot of your comments), but the main point I'm trying to make - based on the question in this thread - is that although I'm a bit of a newbie, I too will still love the Kings of the Sex on Fire craze dies down! As far as I'm concerned, they're one of the greatest bands out there right now, and I hope what happened at Reading, etc. won't discourage them! (I'm Carly, by the way - amazing site! You guys all seem like great, loyal fans! x) |
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Post by jeffica on Aug 30, 2009 6:26:48 GMT
This thread is great (fantastic post Jasmine, it actually made me shed a tear  ), I really hope / wish the band could read it. Even though there are different opinions on the song itself (I personally love SoF!), it's clear that everyone here just loves them. OK, not a profound observation seeing as we all joined the forum, but it proves that, even though we may not approve of some of the instrument smashing, bad moods and insults that have happened in the last month or so, I don't think it has changed (many) people's attitudes towards the band. On the other hand, the media / reviewers / concertgoers who are just stumbling across them are already turning their backs, calling them arrogant and generally badmouthing them. But I think those people are here to stay now, and there's no point in wishing a different song had been released as the single, or that OBTN had never been written. What's done is done, and I think the band are probably starting to realise that. (long pause, I'm sorry, I'm desperately hungover and emotional and don't really know what my point is ). I think my point is that, despite the bad behaviour, and despite the questionable nature of some of the fans (which I agree we should just get used to - know that we've got the moral highground and deal with it), the fact that we are all here, worrying and taking the time to try and write what we feel (I don't know about anyone else but trying to put this in words is mighty tricky) should speak for itself. I love Kings of Leon. I love the family attitude, I love the charisma, I (mostly) love the attitude, I love the clothes / hair, I love the humour, but most of all I love the music. I think if I could say one thing to the guys, it would be how much I depend on BOTT to get me through. As easy as it is to get caught up in everything else, I think (and I'm only just realising this myself) we need to remember that it's all just personal. Fans will find their own way into the music, and interpret every song differently. And I preferred it when the band just did their own thing, and let this happen. Now it seems like they want everyone to cheer here, like this song, not like that song etc. And I think THAT is what needs to change with them, nothing else. (God, I'm sorry, this post does not make sense. Call it a though progression ) |
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Post by rockchick26 on Aug 30, 2009 19:09:31 GMT
if all 7,000+ of us pitched in some money i bet they'd play a private gig for us This is the best idea I've heard in months!!  *chips in her $1...sorry, i'm unemployed and don't have any more!*  |
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Post by beplumcrazy on Aug 30, 2009 19:14:00 GMT
i've noticed a lot of you saying that you were introduced to the band from hearing SOF but then became a fan after that i use the term "SOF FAN" a lot but i just want to clarify i only mean the fans that ONLY like SOF/US and not those of you who are actual music fans and go beyond those two songs! |
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Post by timgrw on Aug 30, 2009 20:13:59 GMT
Okay I've been away all weekend and this is the first thread I've looked at. What happened at Reading?
With regard to the Sex on Fire thing and the feeling that they are not 'our band' anymore, I feel that way too.
I never made any secret of the fact that I very much so dislike Only By The Night, apart from two songs, Crawl and Manhattan. It's funny because it's probably their most professionally produced album but I think that professionalism has changed them as a band. With YAYM, ASH and BOTT I think Kings of Leon did something new, something different but OBTN, to me, sounded like a record any band could put out and that's probably why it hit the mainstream.
I'll probably get linched and smited loads with my next statement but OBTN put KOL in to that soft rock bracket, the bracket bands like Bon Jovi belong in.
I will be forever grateful to them as a band for what they have given me. From the very first time I saw them live in July 2003 up to the last time in July of this year, they have, for the most part, given me amazing music, they have made me new friends and I've got to see places in the world I would never have had in not been for their tours. However, album number five better not be a replica of the last one. It better not be commercial, poppy tripe because musically that's not what I am in to.
Kings of Leon used to be a cool band, a band with an edge, fresh, but the tide is turning. Maybe it has turned, all I know is that they've turned into something that I never thought they would.
I don't mean to go all negative because it isn't all negative. For me they gave me three awesome albums, three of the best albums of the last decade and I will always treasure them.
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Post by Meh on Sept 3, 2009 9:54:02 GMT
I've only just noticed this thread and Jasmine you have a beautiful way with words, you'll be selling books in no time! I agree that SOF should go, or at least go on hiatus for a while. KOTR is the perfect replacement, I'm not even sure why it was removed from the set list in the first place, it should be there as standard. Also its true what you say about artists having a song they must hate playing but feel obliged to. My sister is a huge Bryan Adams fan and she says without a doubt that he hates playing 'Everything I Do..', she's seen him about 15 times and apparently he changes it everytime he sings it, whether these changes are subtle or not I'm not sure but maybe the Kings could do something like that if they feel they need to keep the song in their set list? Just a thought! |
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Post by ticboo on Sept 3, 2009 10:05:29 GMT
^ Bryan Adams and Everything You Do - in the light of THAT the Kings have very little to complain about. I never ever thought I would feel sorry for Bryan Adams. Nice thread, Jasmine |
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Post by Meh on Sept 3, 2009 10:09:15 GMT
Sorry, I didn't know what else to compare it with! That song was HUGE though, and quite sick inducing |
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Post by lardydar on Sept 3, 2009 12:20:40 GMT
As much as I love SOF and I don't care who knows it, I agree it should be rested for a while. When we haven't heard it live for a good three years or so, pull it out the bag and slap us in the chops with it. Then we'll realise why the world cottoned on.
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Post by timgrw on Sept 3, 2009 14:08:11 GMT
How's about they just do a gig of B sides. That would surely confuse a lot of people |
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Post by lardydar on Sept 3, 2009 14:09:53 GMT
Oh how sublime that would be. Beneath the Surface and My Third House LIVEEEEEE?  I might just have a little coronary. |
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Post by timgrw on Sept 3, 2009 14:15:10 GMT
And Wicker Chair. I might just have a little pee |
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Post by lardydar on Sept 3, 2009 14:30:48 GMT
OK stop now. The idea is just too good to bandy about like so much cheap wine.
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Post by timgrw on Sept 3, 2009 14:31:37 GMT
My muzzle is on.
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Post by lardydar on Sept 3, 2009 14:35:24 GMT
Kinky lazerbeam. oops - I think I may have cheapened the ethos of this thread. |
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Post by timgrw on Sept 3, 2009 14:36:21 GMT
Just you wait 'til Nashville girl!
*promises to stop hijacking thread now*
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Post by schnucams on Sept 4, 2009 9:07:43 GMT
^^ in fairness that'd be a short show |
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Post by Meh on Sept 4, 2009 9:10:01 GMT
^ Short but oh so sweet?!
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