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Post by chichi on Jul 9, 2007 14:33:03 GMT
You know why people downloaded Woo Hoo for free? Because there's nowhere else to get it from unless you pay $10 for a single (Fans) that you ALREADY have on the CD that you ALREADY bought. I'm sorry, but to pay $10 for Woo Hoo just doesn't make sense.
I've said this once before and I'll say it again: KOL needs to start selling b-sides in their online store along with the rolling papers. And they shouldn't charge $10 for a single, either. How about selling b-sides for $2-3 each? I'll be more than happy to buy it, just like I buy everything else of theirs.
And I have a new theory: I now think Fabi Castro is really Caleb.
(P.S. Fabi Castro, I looove your new haircut!!)
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Post by sar on Jul 9, 2007 14:40:17 GMT
Fabi Castro: In response to your post...
This board has always been part of a fansite and is only linked to from the king's official site. I was never asked and the band didnt know until THEIR MANAGEMENT did it.
if the band or any of their people wanted us to take anything down or delete anything then they know how to contact us and we'd be happy to do so. last time i met up with the band i talked to them about this.
originally the 'share stuff' forum was to share live bootlegs, it was never mean't to be specifically for leaks and i agree that it's not the best of ideas to be 'allowing' people to share unreleased stuff that hasn't been taped at a show.
i don't have time at the moment to moderate this board full time so if people have problems with anything on it they should PM me or one of the other mods.
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Post by martynmcfearless on Jul 9, 2007 16:47:48 GMT
i don't think it's the people on here you wanna be havin a go at. they are all decent and appreciate the band with the best of respects, i feel that the person leaking the material is the culprit for the bands lack of sales or whatever you want to call that.
I am in no way innocent in this situation i have downloaded their first album and upon that i have downloaded their b sides as i have no intentions to purchase every single record by kings of leon, call me a half arsed fan or whatever you want but my decision is that and I'm happy with the albums that i HAVE purchased, which are all 3...
So what I'm trying to say is, i think you're attacking the wrong crowd in this instance and making someone out to be a criminal for their actions of posting Woo Hoo... it's only a song mate, relax. I love the band and as much as I would love to go out and buy every song I don't feel it to be utterly needed. I'm pitching in with my ticket, t shirt. you name it. I've pitched in quite a bit.
Besides my friend, I know passion does hold a strong stand when it comes to a band you adore but don't get too wild with that statement, you make it sound like KoL are on the brink of Bankruptcy. Which I would most definitely say is not the case! We all love the band here, we are friends in some kinda way I suppose and each has their own opinion but don't get too emotional about this whole circumstance, it happens everywhere unfortunately, with all bands now, with all music.
So that's the way it goes, but I actually take it as a positive thing because bands do get promotion in a way from downloaded content, whether that be illegal or legal. If you aint made of money and you hear a song by KoL, on the radio, then immediately download the song on a P2P program and really dig that song, then you may end up buying yourself a ticket to a gig therefor KoL have made some revenue. Even if the person has downloaded every single album with no intention to buy anything, KoL have made something out of nothing.
Ok I guess there's always gonna be people who just download and download and download but... hmm it makes us wiser, with music, makes us learn... it gives us a better understanding of the bands we really do like. I guess you could spend all your money on albums but not everyone has the same financial background.... so just go easy on the whole thing, it's not as bad as it seems really.
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Post by ro on Jul 9, 2007 19:03:50 GMT
my plan is to buy all their singles and albums and gig tickets and make them all really rich. in hopes that they'd want to come and thank me in person i had the best dream ever last night about going to see kings of leon madness
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Post by Sephora FairyQueen on Jul 9, 2007 19:51:33 GMT
Well written Marty. Whether we all agree or not, everyone seems passionate enough. And I love that.
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Post by skatf on Jul 9, 2007 20:05:44 GMT
Fabi Castro - how I'd dearly love to flame your right now but I don't want to seem a hypocrite after saying how nice everyone else is on here. But I think you've ruined things for a lot of people.
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Post by chichi on Jul 9, 2007 20:17:23 GMT
Fabi Castro made a few good points, and now I feel really bad about making that post about their tight pants. I wasn't making fun of them - I LOVE THIS BAND!!!! I'm just interested in what they wear and want them to be healthy and comfortable...I didn't mean for people to talk about their packages for 3 pages.
I also didn't think the band read any of these, but if I'm wrong, and they do, then guys I'm really, really sorry for saying you need to loosen up your pants.
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Post by skatf on Jul 9, 2007 20:29:48 GMT
Fabi Castro made a few good points, and now I feel really bad about making that post about their tight pants. I wasn't making fun of them - I LOVE THIS BAND!!!! I'm just interested in what they wear and want them to be healthy and comfortable...I didn't mean for people to talk about their packages for 3 pages. I also didn't think the band read any of these, but if I'm wrong, and they do, then guys I'm really, really sorry for saying you need to loosen up your pants. Why are you apologising?!? It was a light-hearted thing, everyone was in on the joke. There was nothing mean-spirited in it at all. People seem to have had a sense of humour bypass and I think that's really sad.
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Post by razzz on Jul 9, 2007 20:38:47 GMT
I'm sure if they really are reading this stuff, and can [hopefully] obviously see everyone is just joking around 99.9% of the time, they really wouldn't care...they might even think some of it's funny.
But that's just my assumption.
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Post by razzz on Jul 9, 2007 20:41:06 GMT
And if they do read this stuff... Caleb, I really do like your haircut. It looks good... I think it was just a shock to most of us :]]]
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Post by hotpeacekid on Jul 9, 2007 20:41:29 GMT
Caleb I'm sorry I said you had stupid hair, it's not stupid, it looks like very intelligent hair. I'm sure it got all A's in beauty school
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Post by chichi on Jul 9, 2007 21:02:23 GMT
Why are you apologising?!? It was a light-hearted thing, everyone was in on the joke. There was nothing mean-spirited in it at all. People seem to have had a sense of humour bypass and I think that's really sad. Because right now I'm in a very "earth mother peace and love can't we all just get along" kind of mood and I want everyone to be happy, and I just don't want them to think I was making fun of them. I'm sure by tomorrow I'll be back to my normal self and not give a shit!
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Post by highheeldancer on Jul 9, 2007 21:36:48 GMT
Fabi Castro. Please, next time you try and ruin a good time, please start your essays with "I can't type English very well," or "English typed not good very." **Smite**
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Post by highheeldancer on Jul 9, 2007 21:37:58 GMT
PS: This shit hasn't replied to any of our posts. WTF, mate?
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Post by skatf on Jul 9, 2007 21:44:27 GMT
PS: This shit hasn't replied to any of our posts. WTF, mate? Ugh - I really don't want him back. And sorry guys, I doubt veeeeeeery much that the band read any of this.
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Post by rosalee123 on Jul 9, 2007 21:56:50 GMT
I find Fabi's post very disheartening and offensive because I consider myself to be a true KOL fan. I never illegally download music from any band because I feel that it is a disrespect to an artist's hard work, regardless of whom the band is.
Secondly, everything that is said on this board is all in jest and is strictly within a jovial manner. Anybody with an ounce of sense of humor can see that the jokes we make, pertaining to the band or to each other are solely for fun and are never meant maliciously. I have never met a KOL fan that I did not like and get along with. That is what's so great about KOL fans.
Who is this person to judge us on our words? That is what's wrong with society today. They take things way too seriously and literally. Hell, even the band makes fun of themselves. Shit, me and my friends rag on one another all the time and again...we do not hurt each other by it.
Lastly, lets not one person's post ruin the spirit of the board. When it comes down to it, we are here for the amazing music that they make, not the way they look or dress. They could be four obese men with harelips and I would still go to their concerts and cheer them on.That's how fucking talented, gifted and amazing this band is to me.
That's all you will ever saying about this post again.
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Post by quelquefois on Jul 9, 2007 22:06:44 GMT
Fabi Castro. Please, next time you try and ruin a good time, please start your essays with "I can't type English very well," or "English typed not good very." **Smite** That's kind of cruel, don't you think? In fact, Fabi was able to express her or his ideas well and thoroughly. We all understood everything that was said even though the grammar was all sorts of screwy. I'm sure that if Fabi wrote this essay in whatever language he/she speaks it would have been very smart. The fact that he/she wrote it in a language that was not their own in the first place is commendable. But, I'll admit that it did make me giggle at first. Fabi Castro - how I'd dearly love to flame your right now but I don't want to seem a hypocrite after saying how nice everyone else is on here. But I think you've ruined things for a lot of people. Not necessarily. Things will only be ruined if we let them be ruined. Those that do the things they do do them by their own will and no matter how many people speak out there will always be people fighting against what is being said. The best we could do is ignore it which is what I've been doing until people started being a bit hostile. Fabi: I'm sorry, but even though I agree with your sentiments about 'Woo Hoo' (although to a lesser aggressive and exaggerated extent), you or I cannot be the world's police. So let it be. You're just getting yourself angrier than it's worth. You need to stop attacking us. You've had your say (twice, in fact) and it'll affect those that digest it. If you're thinking of retaliating with a "No, but you have to understand things must be a certain way, etc." I get it. We all do. This just needs to stop otherwise it's going to turn into a huge fight. We've listened to you and I hope you've listened to us. For the good of all just end it.
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Post by nadius on Jul 9, 2007 22:22:50 GMT
Fabi Castro. Please, next time you try and ruin a good time, please start your essays with "I can't type English very well," or "English typed not good very." **Smite** Come one guys, she's brazilian, that's why her english is like that, let's not get all crazy now and start being mean to each other. I'm in a very love and peace mood right now, so let's just try to be nice, yes? (trying to bring some peace) And Sar, darling you said that if the band told you that it wasn't good (the posting comercial material) you would take measures, I'm asking ya luv, have they reached you and told you something, cuz I was wondering that, maybe that was why you had to take down the Share section..?
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Post by quelquefois on Jul 9, 2007 23:12:01 GMT
Fabi Castro. Please, next time you try and ruin a good time, please start your essays with "I can't type English very well," or "English typed not good very." **Smite** Come one guys, she's brazilian, that's why her english is like that, let's not get all crazy now and start being mean to each other. I'm in a very love and peace mood right now, so let's just try to be nice, yes? (trying to bring some peace) And Sar, darling you said that if the band told you that it wasn't good (the posting comercial material) you would take measures, I'm asking ya luv, have they reached you and told you something, cuz I was wondering that, maybe that was why you had to take down the Share section..? Oh, man. The share section is gone. I only "used" it once. . .but what the eff, Clarence?* *It should be noted that the name Clarence belongs to none other than a character in my imagination and the phrase "What the eff" could never be complete without it.
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Post by hotpeacekid on Jul 9, 2007 23:39:10 GMT
what happened to our fighting spirit? KOL fans are fighters, we should be thanking this castro for starting an argument. arguments are fun, don't even try to pretend you don't enjoy bitching someone out, it's in our KOL nature. so thanks castro, I love all you little fuckers on this board!
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