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Post by eriisgodx on Apr 15, 2007 19:08:58 GMT
Hey, listen.. Im not trying to offend anybody, especially the band. The only thing Im saying is that the KOL had a very distinguishable sound, and that they were very original.
When I saw the new video, its like they abandoned their original style, and you couldnt tell the difference between them and every other popular band out right now. One of the members even said they sold out to make records, andt hats why the album is called "Because of the Times....."
Furthermore, quoting someone else frm this bored " Indie and selling out are fundamentally contradictory. So the original poster has no validity to their argument. "
Indie has become so popular and mainstream that it has contradicted its own label. How many bands out there are "indie" as in independed, but at the same time sound like everybody else in the industry? Face it, all the bands look the same, the guitars sound the same, its NOT EVEN ROCK ANYMORE! when the KOL first came out they were southern rock-ish and unique.How can someone go from having a kickass beard to looking like they do now? I know that the way you look isnt important at all, but did the Dead ever comb and gel their hair just cuz they were amking tons of money? What about Zeppelin?
Thats the current style and sound, and unfortunately for me, I feel as though the band conformed. VERY UNFORTUNATE for me, because i love them so much, still do, but are a little disappointed..
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Post by antroolez on Apr 15, 2007 22:51:30 GMT
leave the fratellis out of this
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Post by ken on Apr 15, 2007 23:26:18 GMT
they didn't sell out at all. all there albums have just gone in different directions. they aren't abandoning their original style man, they have had a different style with every album. and keep listening to BOTT i know that you will like it sooner or later, i hate to say it but i wasn't that enthused with the album initially but now i love it.
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Post by double on Apr 16, 2007 1:21:08 GMT
lame. i knew something like this would come up.
seriously, why is it any time a good band starts getting recognized for their talent people automatically say they've "sold out".
fyi. they're on a fucking major label. they aren't indie.
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Post by ken on Apr 16, 2007 2:07:47 GMT
lame. i knew something like this would come up. seriously, why is it any time a good band starts getting recognized for their talent people automatically say they've "sold out". fyi. they're on a fucking major label. they aren't indie. true. they have never been on an independent label. |
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Post by rosalee123 on Apr 16, 2007 2:14:18 GMT
Hey, listen.. Im not trying to offend anybody, especially the band. The only thing Im saying is that the KOL had a very distinguishable sound, and that they were very original. When I saw the new video, its like they abandoned their original style, and you couldnt tell the difference between them and every other popular band out right now. One of the members even said they sold out to make records, andt hats why the album is called "Because of the Times....." Furthermore, quoting someone else frm this bored " Indie and selling out are fundamentally contradictory. So the original poster has no validity to their argument. " Indie has become so popular and mainstream that it has contradicted its own label. How many bands out there are "indie" as in independed, but at the same time sound like everybody else in the industry? Face it, all the bands look the same, the guitars sound the same, its NOT EVEN ROCK ANYMORE! when the KOL first came out they were southern rock-ish and unique.How can someone go from having a kickass beard to looking like they do now? I know that the way you look isnt important at all, but did the Dead ever comb and gel their hair just cuz they were amking tons of money? What about Zeppelin? Thats the current style and sound, and unfortunately for me, I feel as though the band conformed. VERY UNFORTUNATE for me, because i love them so much, still do, but are a little disappointed.. shoot me FYI: The album is called "because of the times" because its a reference to of UPC ministers' conferences they would go to when they were kids. The meetings are held in Alexandria, Louisiana. They have said this plenty of times. Also, they are on RCA records and have been since the beginning. NOT an indie label. The band is just evolving. Good for them. rosalee |
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Post by AccuratePassion on Apr 16, 2007 2:39:15 GMT
Indie and selling out are fundamentally contradictory. So the original poster has no validity to their argument. Not really, the whole indie thing has become ridiculously commercial and average because of bands like The Fratellis. But i don't think they've sold out at all, Calebs singing voice alone sets them apart from other bands. They've always been very successful in the UK, just because they make great music, not because they're trying to make money Indie as a sound may be more commercial. But what indie is is not signing with a major label. At least in the US thats what it means. Perhaps in the UK the idea is different. Fratellis are not the first band I think of when I think "indie". Shins, Clap Your Hands Say Yeah, and the like are... |
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Post by sopheve on Apr 16, 2007 12:17:55 GMT
thats what i'm saying. The Fratellis are a shit commercial band pretending to be indie
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Post by antroolez on Apr 16, 2007 12:44:59 GMT
*gasp* fratellis are genius
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Post by Pex On Fire- on Apr 16, 2007 12:57:51 GMT
thats what i'm saying. The Fratellis are a shit commercial band pretending to be indie I dont think they are pretending to be anything. Fratelli's are what they are. |
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Post by nadius on Apr 16, 2007 14:51:29 GMT
What about Led Zeppelin?? Kings of Leon is Kings of Leon and Led Zeppelin is Led Zeppelin, and to be quite honest I don't see why are you comparing them? I can say that Led Zeppelin appearence changed as well, here... (And I'm a die hard Led Zeppelin fan, happens to be my favourite band ever and I love the fact that the Kings look up for them)     And regardin' music, well, Led Zeppelin is probably one of the most proliferate bands ever, they've done reggae, blues, hard rock and some say (not me) heavy metal and combined indian music with classical violins, and acoustic guitars with a kicking ass metal voice!!! Now........... why if the Kings decide to mix a bit things is wrong? Every band likes to try new things and get inside themsleves to discover new sounds and experiences, let them be!!! |
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Post by chloe on Apr 16, 2007 16:10:11 GMT
As people we are supposed to grow in all aspects and change because it is the natural order of things. Adapt but don't adopt. It would be more fake if they kept cranking out the same old formula. They still have the same soul, they just ventured out with their sound a little. I think it is a wonderful thing that they're trying to attract more of an audience because even if they're too down-to-earth to admit it they do have a beautiful artistry and honesty coming through them. They have wisdom to share. What generation has ever needed it more than this one? I can hear some modern tendencies in their sound too but it's still amazing. No one leaves home for good. Their 'sound' will always be there, it's their style. But if every time they try something new you bash them then you should just probably not set yourself up for a "disappointment" that's bound to happen. You mentioned Zepplin and the Dead never combing their hair and wearing scruffy clothing. It was the sixties! No one combed their hair. For all you know they could have been wearing business suites to bed. I love those bands but you have to understand that there is a business aspect to the industry. The closest you will ever get to the Kings is their music because the stuff you see in Rolling Stone is part of the 'business' not the person. The person is the person at home writing and breathing. The only thing I would complain about is their out there ways of licking models faces and those things. I wish they would be more sexually discrete like Bob Dylan. Use some of those good morals for more than repentance. But it's none of my business anyway. |
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Post by keri on Apr 16, 2007 16:14:56 GMT
its not called selling out its called growning and evolving your music so that every album doesent sound the same its called sharpening up your sound and getting it to sound the way you like it although my mum did make this statement today: 'what worries me about this album is that you can actually hear almost every word they are saying, thats not ver kings of leon-ish is it!?'  Brilliant comment. Yeah you can acctualy hear what they are singing on BOTT without referring to a lyric sheet. And yes they are really growing up musically. They are just so amazing live. Saw them on Saturday at Swindon and it was ..... WOW. They relay know hoe to play. They are the best live band on the planet. Muse only beat them on the best in the Galaxy  lol I sold out? No way. Been listening them since the early demos of Molly on XFM way back before any record deal. They now have a No1 album for the second week! I would say that is not selling out but recognition of a band of great musicians. KOL we respect you  |
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Post by Pex On Fire- on Apr 16, 2007 16:16:46 GMT
To be honest this thread is pure stupidity.
If they didnt change and brought out YAYM Mk3, we would just have someone else here posting a thread: "KOL have no imagination and can only do one style".
They really can't win. Oh wait they just got a Number 1 album! Champion!
As for their style, they have clearly always been interested in fashion and image. Surely just keeping the old style and beards because its a gimmick that sells records would be "selling out". No?
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Post by chloe on Apr 16, 2007 16:21:55 GMT
  (left) Bob Dylan March 19, 1962 (right) June 27, 1966 Artist grow. They change, change back and change some more. It happens. |
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Post by jaredismygod on Apr 16, 2007 16:34:14 GMT
no-one can argue with that, the mans a legend. seeing him live tomorrow ^_^ but yeah ta whoever said the point i made was good  |
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Post by chloe on Apr 16, 2007 16:44:44 GMT
^^^
Oh you are lucky to be seeing Dylan tomorrow. I wanted to see him when he was here in America (haha the Kings were opening for him) at the Forum in California but I live in Arizona and my mom was like 'I don't wanna go all the way out there". err...I'm still upset with her about that.
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Post by jaredismygod on Apr 16, 2007 16:52:15 GMT
im sure he'll come around again soon enough, the man seems to be on one constant tour!
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Post by eriisgodx on Apr 17, 2007 2:10:58 GMT
Indie as a sound may be more commercial. But what indie is is not signing with a major label. At least in the US thats what it means. Perhaps in the UK the idea is different.
Fratellis are not the first band I think of when I think "indie". Shins, Clap Your Hands Say Yeah, and the like are...
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Post by eriisgodx on Apr 17, 2007 2:28:23 GMT
Nah.. Im sorry but I dont agree. The KOL were cool, cool sounding cool looking. Theyve polished themselves just like every other stupid band out there right now..... Want originality? Here:      and im not talking about it as an independent label, im talking about the new "indie" genre that has formed, bands label their "sound" as indie rather than just their label. Its become very mainstream, but thats what sells, especially to the teenagers. Im not insulting the band, and w/e maybe they are evolving... All i know is that EVERYONE has said they didnt like the album at first either... it wasnt just me. I liked them at first because they were so dfiferent from the popular bands, but think about it: when they were doing that kind of music they wer barely famous in the US and big in the UK.. now because of their new album, which sounds ALOT more like the new "indie" genre that sells inthe US, theyr gaining fame.. The original "indie" sound was the shins, white stripes, etc. Whatever . "indie". Shins, Clap Your Hands Say Yeah, and the like are... |
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