Its too bad KOL Sold out for success

[eriisgodx]

Tell me the difference between any of those bands ^... there is none..


and theyr all famous!!

[chloe]

It really have nothing bad to say about any other bands not because I like them but because I don't like to be mean. But seriously. Fall Out Boy is stretching it a bit. The only thing FOB has in common with KOL is that their lead singers have amazing voices. That's it. The way someone dresses has nothing to do with music. The fact that you would use that against them is beyond shallow. So they should dress scruffy and then what? They stay out of style just so that YOU can be happy. They way they dress (going into fashion mode) is actually an originated style that came from the runway of a label called Dior Homme. It was inspired by the likes of Mick Jagger. That style is rock right now, as polos are to preppies, skin tight jeans are to rockers. It's cool. It's the times.

And I don't know who you're referring to in the sound department when it comes to being similar because even "modernized" KOL sounds completely original. So what if other people said they don't like it. Then don't listen to it. Creating and bumping this thread isn't going to do any difference. If you're so caught up into that "indie" thing then you my dear ARE indie. Caught up in the hype of some genre that will have its moment and fade. Think of it this way; I can't think of any KOL fans that listen to any of those bands you posted but I can think of tons that listen to Zepplin and Dylan, that says something. The fact that Bob invited them on the road, as did U2, that says something. Just look deeper than Nylon magazine and maybe you'd have a better perspective on what they're trying to do.

PS. I have never listened to The Shins but in their defense I saw them on 'Steven's Untitled Rock Show' (I think it only comes on in Canada and America) and they weren't too welcoming to the term either.

[nadius]

Look, they weren't original when they came out at all, if you seriously are speaking you just can't say that, they looked like a band brought from the 1970's, that wasn't original, but it was who they were back then which is fair, but not original, thousands of bands had sounded and dressed like them 20 years before them, so I don't see why you keep saying that their originality was there. And it's not about fitting into a category of music, it's about doing what you like, pediod, I don't think they're too much interested in being "Indie" or "Rock" or whatever, everything is being sold, even "Independent" bands, everything gets sold literally speaking, they sell t-shirts, albums, interviews, and that's the way it is, if you want a non-comercial band, well... none of what you've named were "non-comercial". I really don't understand why you feel so surprised and stranged about this, it always have been this way, it's good that it is this way and they are more true to themselves now than when they started when they were some 70's retro thing that had come from the past. I love them back then I and still do, 'cause if you hear seriously to the album you'll see it's still them, only even as better musicians, and besides, I've said it, it's the music that counts, in the end, they're musicians, so the music it's what counts.

Sorry I really don't mean to be agressive to you, but this whole "they've changed oh god!" thing is really getting my nerves, 'cause once you stop liking something that's it, you've got the right to not like something, but having 1.000 threads on this it's mind-fucking.

Once more, it's not personal.

[nick2876]

No way have KOL sold out! They have success on their terms not by trying to fit in!

[mywenis]

there is not a big enough "rollseyes" smilie in all the internets for this thread

[ken]

zeppelin is one of the most famous rock bands ever so they surely must have "soldout" too. just because KOL are gaining some recognition doesn't mean they are sell outs.

[untutoredyouth]

When I heard 'On Call' and saw the video for it, many moons ago, I felt the same as the OP, because the video wasn't their usual cool type of video, it was more like a generic pop video, like fucking Maroon 5, and I thought the sound was also too a bit generic, and a bit Bloc Party-esq.
However, to call BOTT generic and Indie is bullshit.
Songs like, Charmer, McFearless, Black Thumbnail and Fans, are all rock and roll songs, that could have appeared on either YAYM or ASH.
And even though the rest of the album isn't so hard hitting, doesn't mean it is generic and in the mould of the shite indie music around now.
Songs like Ragoo, Arizona, TLW are all very good lyrically and a lot more experimental.
Trunk is probably the most experimental, and seems to be very Doors-y, so how can that be generic and 'indie?'
Aren't these new indie bands now all just producing catchy songs that your little brother/sister/aunty/mother can listen to?
I doubt you'd catch your 9 year old brother appreciating Trunk or Arizona.
I love YAYM and ASH and now also love BOTT, even though it's quite different in places.
If you watch the videos of KOL in Argentina, you will realise they aren't sell outs, and that they are just the same R&R bastards they've always been

Sorry for the essay.. i doubt many people will have read it all, but fuck...

[mynameisdominic]

amen to that

[mynameisdominic]

oh wait i meant amen to the post at the end of page 1... but theres nothing wrong with this post

[izzy]

Yeah, i amen P1 last post. the world is full of music critics who believe they are right, but it's one persons opinion that has led us to disect KOL and indie as a culture. I agree with the dude that said by definistion indie is non-conformist, but let's not try and find the line between indie and pop, cos nowadays, there isn't one. Indie has a much bigger fan base now than back when KOL released their first single.

This album has sold - be happy for them!

[natalie]

Although I like BOTT it does have ALOT of filler. There are a few good songs yes but i do think they have changed alot, but not in a negative way. I think calebs voice has lost a lot of character and i do think they have sold out a bit, especially on the video front. I would NEVER compare them to fall out boy, they sound nothign alike. They only thing they have in common with them is their jeans (which are irrelevant to the music)