Album is STILL Disappointing

[antroolez]

thezoostation said:

I just look at the actual music they've made. Are Caleb's lyrics more coherent, more purposeful, and more skilled than the previous albums? Yep. Is he a better singer than on the previous albums? Oh yeah. Are Nathan's drums even more interesting and unique than they've been on the previous albums? Yeah. Has Mathew branched out as far as his guitar playing is concerned, trying different styles and techniques to good effect? Yeah. Is Jared's bass work more intricate and skilled than it was on the previous albums? Without a doubt. Did the whole band contribute to this album equally, rather than it being a primarily Caleb-driven piece? According to the band, yeah. Based purely on the mechanics and skill of it, I'd say BOTT surpasses the previous two albums. And looking at the actual songs, I think they back me up. As all the reviewers say, who has the balls to make a 7 minute opener song like Knocked Up these days? Who has the balls to have the screaming that Caleb does in Charmer? How many bands can make a song as honest and beautiful as Arizona? Plus, based on the writing and performance, I think McFearless is the best song they've released to date. And the lines, "those rainy days, they ain't so bad when you're the king, the king they want to see"...it's probably the cleverest bit Caleb's ever written.
It's not the first time I've seen it happen. Hell, it's happened to me. It's still always a little sad to see a fan get frustrated and accuse a band of slipping in quality when they realize that a band has moved on without them. Trust me dude, and I know it breaks your heart a bit 'cause it's happened to me, but the band isn't making worse music. They just don't have anything to say to you anymore that you're willing to hear.
One last thing: it's interesting to me to read how often people who dislike BOTT slam Camero in particular when, to my ears, it's the closest thing to YAYM or ASH on the album.

amen

[nadius]

Sorry, mean no harm, but being a fan it's not about getting credentials and taking pictures.
But hey you can say whatever you want. Free speech and all that.
Fortunately I don't have to read it ONE MORE TIME if I don't want to, so...that.

And hey, it's ok if you don't like it of course, nobody is obliged to like the newest album and you're in your right of expression, it just that I got really tired about this whole thing. Don't take it personal.
I just thought it was a joke thread or sometihng. I was wrong.
One advice though... if you don't like it, just stop listening to it and every disgusting feeling you get will go away.
I think you might be trying hard to make yourself like it cuz you feel your obliged as a "fan" to do so. Don't do that anymore, you don't like it, fine, you've said it and made it clear to everyone here, and we respect that.

[electricrussia]

nadius said:

Sorry, mean no harm, but being a fan it's not about getting credentials and taking pictures.
But hey you can say whatever you want. Free speech and all that.
Fortunately I don't have to read it ONE MORE TIME if I don't want to, so...that.

And hey, it's ok if you don't like it of course, nobody is obliged to like the newest album and you're in your right of expression, it just that I got really tired about this whole thing. Don't take it personal.
I just thought it was a joke thread or sometihng. I was wrong.
One advice though... if you don't like it, just stop listening to it and every disgusting feeling you get will go away.
I think you might be trying hard to make yourself like it cuz you feel your obliged as a "fan" to do so. Don't do that anymore, you don't like it, fine, you've said it and made it clear to everyone here, and we respect that.

You're wrong. The whole thing is a joke.
I have insomnia and seeing how ridiculously riled up people get is interesting, i take that back, is interesting at 4 in the morning.
You idiots sound so lame on your other threads, personalizing the band like anyone gives a fuck, that i just had to capitalize on it.
The album does suck, but i could care less.
It's been loads of fun reading how people can rationalize basically anything.
My favorite is when people will post the 3 paragraph replies that are like "well here's the straight dope", using really flowery vocabulary. the death threats are nice too.
the reality is youre all useless. haha
go outside. You're all getting fat and stupid.

[KingsofNouns]

album is so bad ass. better than yaymh, less than ashb

[myblackthumbnail]

"Don't worry, Be happy" was a number one song, but to me, was painful to listen to. I was in the minority, as you are regarding this cd. I could care less if you like it or not, as you are entitled to your opinion, as is everyone else here. You don't like it, but you're not going to convince anyone that DOES like it to change their mind, and I doubt any of us could do the same for you. Can we all just agree to disagree and let this thread die.