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Post by soniac on Jan 26, 2009 10:24:37 GMT
Hello. Sorry if this has already been discussed. but i was wondering if anyone had any links or anything where i could get an explanation to what "Only by the night" actually refers to...
I know Because of the times was the preachers conference, and Youth and Young manhood is a line out of the bible or something like that....but what's the explanation to their latest?
I was thinking it was kind of a reference to vampires/werewolves other nocturnal creatures (the UK album cover hinted at that i thought). But does anyone have anything reliable??
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Post by meelottie on Jan 26, 2009 11:59:58 GMT
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Post by autobusas on Jan 26, 2009 21:24:55 GMT
Youth and Young manhood is a line out of the bible or something like that... I've read somewhere that Youth and Young Manhood is a line out of one Hemingway's book  Also, I've read in one local music site that sex is a subject which ties all album and that Caleb feels uncomfortable when he sings "Sex on Fire".  A source of this is www.gigwise.com/but I can't find it there. |
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Post by sarah/// on Jan 26, 2009 21:42:37 GMT
Isn't it from a poem? Or a passage or something? And it's "Only By Night" but they added the in to make 5 syllables. I was watching a interview recently but I can't remember where from.
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Post by usa1950 on Jan 26, 2009 21:56:28 GMT
I read somewhere that it was in reference to the way the album was made. They would all go out together around town in Nashville after working and recording in the afternoon and evening. All 4 of them out together in bars and restaurants that were familiar had been missing in their lives. (European Tours, spending less time in the USA, etc) They were together, like old times, out and about.... but "only by the night." The lyrics were written mostly by Caleb and mostly when he was on painkillers, pills and alocohol while recovering from a separated shoulder caused by a fight on Thanksgving with Nathan. No, I'm not making this up.
Something like that. I think I read it in SPIN Magazine... the one with the Kings on the cover?
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Post by antroolez on Jan 27, 2009 0:09:08 GMT
its a quote from an edgar allan poe poem or quote im sure, but like someone said it was 'Only By Night'
ah here we go
'They who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night'
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Post by anners on Jan 27, 2009 2:12:17 GMT
^^ yeah its form edgar allen poe
but caleb complelety didn't understand that quote. he said it was like "people who dream only by the night are more aware"
but its the exact opposite.
the quote translates to "people who daydream and dream at night are more aware of stuff than people who dream only by the night"
i think he wrote it in spin magazine? or clash?
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Post by whiskers on Jan 27, 2009 2:43:43 GMT
that's funny for Caleb to misunderstand it :s i interpreted it as those who dream during the day, dream deeper due to them being awake at the same time therefore having more stimuli to fuel their dreams, whereas those who dream only at night dream a simpler dream, no less valid, just different. the poet is essentially recognizing the power of the under dog, the dreamer, for they are enlightened rather than blinded by their dreams. calling the album that? i assume it's an irony but caleb complelety didn't understand that quote. he said it was like "people who dream only by the night are more aware" but its the exact opposite. can you call it a misunderstanding though? perhaps it's simply an interpretation, you can't get an interpretation wrong. i dn't believe so anyway. he kinda has a point, hard days work, good nights sleep, stop fucking around in yr head, get on with it, face reality, stop wasting yr time dreaming about it. so consequently they would be more aware, alert, aware in the day. depends really what kind of awareness is being questioned? i am tempted to go on but i know that i should instead spare you all the trauma of doing so  |
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Post by rockchick26 on Jan 27, 2009 4:13:23 GMT
'They who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night' That is one of the coolest things i've ever heard!! I just put it on my msn messenger message at the top |
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Post by summerskin on Jan 27, 2009 8:54:00 GMT
I remember Caleb saying it was from Edgar Allen Poe's short story "Eleonora". The line the title is taken from reads "They who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night." Caleb said they added the "the" to keep in tune with the whole "Each album being 5 syllables" thing. I wish I knew which interview I got this from...I could probably find it if anyone cared. I think it's funny that the story title has the name "Leon" in it. And now that I've read it all the way through, it's one of my favorites. It's about some dude who falls in love with a girl so much that every day he spends with her in this special meadow they hang out at is beautiful. But then she goes and gets sick and makes him promise he'll never date anyone else. She dies, he does anyway, and she appears as a ghost or something to tell him it's ok. Err...that whole thing sounded a lot less encyclopedic in my head.  |
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Post by rockchick26 on Jan 27, 2009 10:59:31 GMT
Caleb said they added the "the" to keep in tune with the whole "Each album being 5 syllables" thing. I wish I knew which interview I got this from...I could probably find it if anyone cared. WHOA!!! I never noticed that before! They ARE all 5 syllables! That is the coolest thing I learned today!  |
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Post by malcollie on Jan 27, 2009 13:42:31 GMT
WHOA!!! I never noticed that before! They ARE all 5 syllables! That is the coolest thing I learned today! It's possible that I'm just easily amused, but this made my day.... |
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Post by lardydar on Jan 29, 2009 14:58:51 GMT
They talk about this in the ROXWEL vid I posted a link to in the share stuff threads...defo a Poe reference and they added "the" to make it five syllables. Doesn't seem like there's much more to it than that...which is fairly cool.  |
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Post by soniac on Jan 30, 2009 14:16:50 GMT
oh hey thanks guy i'll have to look up this poem then. Poe, is that the fella who's grave is visited on the same day every year by some mystery man who leaves some booze and a rose? Am i talking rubbish? Do I read too much wikipedia? |
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Post by seaurchin on Feb 1, 2009 16:19:08 GMT
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