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Post by Lukellum on Sept 28, 2004 19:55:51 GMT
Kings of Leon played a show last night to a packed house at 12th and Porter here in Nashville. Be Your Own Pet and The Features opened up and ROCKED. The Kings on the other hand were disappointing to say the least. They played for maybe any hour and refused to play an encore. Disappointed and digrunted, the crowd did a "bullshit" chant to show their disapproval of such a half-assed performance. This kind of premadonna shit may fly in the UK but it doesn't sit to well with the folks in Nashvegas. I just hoped they would represent their hometown a little better than that. I'm still a fan and I liked the new songs they did play during the short set, I guess I just expected more from the guys.
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Post by Steve on Sept 29, 2004 4:08:54 GMT
The one word that comes to mind is 'Wow'. The last thing I expected to hear about the Nashville show was that the Kings' performance was anything less than stellar. I sincerely hope that there is an explanation for their playing such a short set, and that it is not indicative of their plan for the rest of the tour.
I'm going to be brutally honest in the next few sentences, so anyone with a weak stomach may want to stop reading. Kings of Leon, in my mind, are the quintessential rock and roll band. What the Followill boys have done for music in the last few years is truly beautiful. Anyone who listens to their music and truly appreciates it, should be grateful that such music has been created, given the barren, stagnant climate of the current musical landscape.
I'm not trying to sound too serious about this, but Kings of Leon, I believe can save rock and roll. The band is an inspiration to anyone who has even an ounce of belief that good music can be popular once again, as it was in the days of Zeppelin, Creedence, the Velvets, and the Stones.
A friend and I were lucky enough to meet the guys at Bonnaroo, and we spoke to Jared briefly about the new album. I think everyone should know what he told us: "Dude, people aren't gonna know what to do with this album".
I think that can be said about any truly great rock and roll album. I'm confident that "A-Ha Shake Heartbreak" will give rock and roll a much needed kick in the ass. I'll be at the Boston show with my good buddy, and I hope some of you guys will be too.
I apologize for the obscene length of this post, Best of Luck to Kings of Leon on this tour.
LONG LIVE ROCK AND ROLL
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Post by PrickleyPorcupine on Sept 29, 2004 6:02:56 GMT
Lukellum why was the crowd disappointed & hostile? Was it purely because of the length of the set?
Steve I agree, A-Ha Shake Heartbreak is going to be amazing.
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Post by lukellum on Sept 29, 2004 13:21:58 GMT
Yes, the crowd was hostile b/c of the short set. I mean, all they had to do is play one song for the an encore and everyone wouldn't have been so pissed off.
I agree that the new album is going to rock and the news songs they played Monday night were great. I think they have had their egos massaged quite a bit from being idolized in europe and the uk, but the people of Nashville don't care for that premadonna shit and Nashville doesn't need the Kings enough to put up with it. Rock might, but Nashville doesn't. We can just chalk it up to a bad show and let that be it. I mean, I'm sure the Velvet Underground had a bad show or two in their day. I am sure they will probably kick ass on the rest of their tour and this lame gig will be a thing of the past.
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Post by red on Sept 29, 2004 15:25:58 GMT
simply because they didn't play an encore? surely wouldn't it be more appropriate to imply that, it wasn't the kings failing to play an encore that pissed them off, more that the Nashville crowd got wound-up because they weren't given - what they considered to be- 'their money's worth'.
their early gigs in Britain never used to have encores. the British crowd were more than likely disapointed by that but we were content enough to appreciate what we had been given.
isn't this really just a case of the band being the band and if you don't like it then that's your problem? and the nashville crowd obviously didn't so, you know, it's their problem!
one last point though, it sounds kinda arrogant of them to expect more just because it's Nashville. kings will never be given a chance there really. not from what i've gathered so far about that whole thing. it sounds quite a tough place to win over. it would be assumed that because the band kinda originate from nashville it would be easier for them to win over the audience, but like i say from what i've gathered it seems to be the opposite. it's even harder. oh well, their loss.
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Post by Rusty on Sept 29, 2004 16:03:47 GMT
one last point though, it sounds kinda arrogant of them to expect more just because it's Nashville. kings will never be given a chance there really. not from what i've gathered so far about that whole thing. it sounds quite a tough place to win over. it would be assumed that because the band kinda originate from nashville it would be easier for them to win over the audience, but like i say from what i've gathered it seems to be the opposite. it's even harder. oh well, their loss.Thats what i was thinking. Their loss |
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Post by lukellum on Sept 29, 2004 16:51:01 GMT
fair enough. maybe i just have too high of standards of what to expect from live shows. as far as nashville not giving the kings a chance, i would strongly disagree. nashville has embraced and has devoutly supported the kings since the beginning, which is why i believe they owed everyone more than they gave the other night. thats all i was trying to convey and lets not blow this whole ordeal out of proportion.
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Post by Bill on Sept 29, 2004 17:33:29 GMT
I agree with you lukellum. When a band like the Kings of Leon puts on a concert you should expect a lot from their set. A band with two full length albums should be able to play a set that lasts longer than an hour in my opinion. As my friend Steve already stated, The Kings have the potential to be one of the most important rock bands of our time. They have the sound, the look, the attitude and the influences. Nathan said in an interview that The Band was his favorite band and Jared even went as far to say that if he could open for one band, living or dead, it would the The Velvets. I find that pretty impressive for an 18 year old. However, if the Kings want to enter the top echelon of rock and roll bands they must deliver on stage as well as on album. When I saw them at Bonnaroo they delivered that type of legendary performance. Trani was the single greatest song performed all weekend, hands down. That tops off anything by MMJ, The Dead, Primus, Bob Dylan, Wilco and other great American Bands. I still have faith that The Kings can be something special down the road but this tour/album could make or break the band.
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Post by lukellum on Sept 29, 2004 18:16:37 GMT
Thanks for the support, Bill. The only reason I was so disappointed the other night was because I know how much potential these guys have and it is a shame to see them not live up to it or flake out at a hometown show. I too saw them at Bonnaroo and also thought it was one of the best shows of the entire festival, although in my opinion there was no beating My Morning Jacket. Their set ROCKED!!! Trani was very memorable, with the high energy mic knock down at the end. Which they also did the other night at 12th and Porter, which came off gimicky instead of done in a fit of passion (as it seemed at Bonnaroo). Are you from the Nashville area??
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Post by ya know on Sept 29, 2004 18:34:42 GMT
'twas a damn good show. more power to the kings after walking off stage like they did after "trani". i mean c'mon guys what kind of encore could they have done after caleb broke 4 fucking strings, throwing the mic down, and then they left with the beautiful serenading of feedback....
you ask me, they played their cards right. nashville ain't special. i don't even think nashville deserved such a good show. this town isn't good to the kings like they should be...
but after all was said and done. the kings as well as be your own pet, and the features were great. i recommend everyone check the other two bands out as well and support the features as they hit this leg of the states with the kings.
cheers.
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Post by lukellum on Sept 29, 2004 18:41:10 GMT
ya (don't) know,
i'm glad you had a good time the other night. its refreshing to know that someone feels like they got their money's worth. as for the "nashville didn't deserve such a good show" stuff: i think its ridiculous that you feel that nashville doesnt deserve good shows and in particular a show that wasn't even that good. the people who go see live music in nashville are some of the best and most deserving concert goers there is. maybe you should try to get out and see more live music so you'd know a good show and a deserving crowd when you see one.
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Post by Rusty on Sept 29, 2004 19:02:09 GMT
'twas a damn good show. more power to the kings after walking off stage like they did after "trani". i mean c'mon guys what kind of encore could they have done after caleb broke 4 fucking strings, throwing the mic down, and then they left with the beautiful serenading of feedback.... I swear caleb did the same at glasto but nobody saw it lol it was soo good. Smashing the strings for trani. hehe such a good song to end on. acording to my i tunes Yaym is 46 mins long including the gap between novocain and talihina. they arnt gunna play the full two albums, or they just dont like you guys  "we dont have like 12 minuite songs or any shit like that so we just have to play more songs and shit" |
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Post by PrickleyPorcupine on Sept 29, 2004 20:45:00 GMT
I obviously was not at the show but I think its a bit mean to say a band was disappointing simply because of the length of a set. I've been to many gigs that are just an hour long. I have also gathered that Nashville were/are not very good to the Kings, so....
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Post by sarah on Sept 29, 2004 20:56:14 GMT
i dont think its unfair to expect over an hour, some gigs i've gone to have gone on long after 2. i will be really disappointed if they dont play for longer next month, especially at £17.50 a ticket. saying that they're only on their second record so i imagine their set will grow as their back catalouge does.
and i think nashville has been quite good to them, they got their publishing deal there didnt they? but yeah i guess its like any other place, theres always going to be some resentment when local bands get sucessful x
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Post by zoidberg on Sept 29, 2004 21:00:01 GMT
If you chant Bullshit to a band what do you expect, them to come running on stage, say sorry, and do a 40 minute encore?
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Post by lukellum on Sept 29, 2004 21:37:20 GMT
ok for starters, no one started chanting bullshit until they turned the house lights and music on and it was obvious that they weren't coming out for an encore. everyone was happy and having a good time until they abruptly ended the set with no encore.
suddenly this whole discussion has gotten out of hand and has turned into me having to defend nashville and whether we have supported the kings or not. i am sure if you asked the kings about nashville they would say that they love the area and they have felt adequately loved and supported by the locals from the beginning. i don't feel like i have to defend nashville anymore than that, mainly b/c all of you who are attacking nashville know absolutely nothing about it. more than likely you have never been to nashville, or even the states for that matter, and you are getting your information and forming opinions based on some trickle down source and not personal experience. i dont claim to know anything about the london, manchester, wherever scene or how they support the bands that hail there....and i've traveled there several times.
finally....the most ridiculous allegation is that the people of nashville, in particular myself, are jealous of the kings for their recent increase in popularity. i am SO proud of what they have accomplished so far and i wish them the very best of luck in the future....i really do. there are no feelings of jealousy whatsoever and its ludicrous to think that. the reason i wrote what i did to start this whole discussion is based on the high level of respect and expectation i have for the band. am i supposed to talk about what a great show they played just b/c they are the kings and i respect their music and dig their songs? a bad show is a bad show and i like to be objective when i go to shows.....i know that might be a very foreign concept to many of you who are writing this garbage. i have seen my favorite musicans in the world have bad shows and it annoys me but that doesnt mean that i dont support them or still dig their music. if you can't understand where i'm coming from on this then that's says something about how you approach music.
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Post by sarah on Sept 29, 2004 22:37:33 GMT
err i dunno if you're referring to what i said about resentment but i wasn't talking about you or nashville in particular. i was merely stating a fact that in a lot of places when local bands get really really popular overseas some people are jealous and resentful. i've heard a few nashville people say very bitchy things and a lot of them saying very nice things, thats all.
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Post by ya i DO know on Sept 30, 2004 13:08:38 GMT
i am sure if you asked the kings about nashville they would say that they love the area and they have felt adequately loved and supported by the locals from the beginning. i am sure that your wrong. about the supported from the beginning statement. i don't know where you have been, you might be a supporter but YOU are not the city of nashville, same goes for me. and its sad nashville hasn't shown the appreciation i think the kings deserve. and i would not hesitate to say that i am one of these "best concertgoers" you speak of in our town. so don't go ranting off about how little i know, because you don't know a - who i am and b - what shows i attend. another thing. you might not be jealous. but to say that local artists in nashville aren't? maybe not alllllll the bands. but my lord that is still a huge understatement...makes me laugh....haha not trying to debate of argue. just stating cold hard facts where there can be no rebuttle. cheers. |
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Post by anndisaster on Sept 30, 2004 15:44:27 GMT
'twas a damn good show. more power to the kings after walking off stage like they did after "trani". i mean c'mon guys what kind of encore could they have done after caleb broke 4 fucking strings, throwing the mic down, and then they left with the beautiful serenading of feedback.... you ask me, they played their cards right. nashville ain't special. i don't even think nashville deserved such a good show. this town isn't good to the kings like they should be... but after all was said and done. the kings as well as be your own pet, and the features were great. i recommend everyone check the other two bands out as well and support the features as they hit this leg of the states with the kings. cheers. Been to 7 KOL gigs now and they aaaaalways play Trani last!!! Maybe if you had seen some of their other shows you woulda realised that and you wouldnt have been so disappinted. Not too sure about the mic thing at the end - they did it at T and V and it looked kinda stoopid! However, the difference in their performances and shows and sets since I first saw them at Brixton all that time ago is amazing - no confidence at all back then, I just hope they dont go too over the top on the up n coming tour..... Come back over here boys - we will love your gigs n look after you (even after what you said about us british women!) |
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Post by Dirty Belly on Sept 30, 2004 15:55:40 GMT
Microphone slap looked cool a T but it was rubbish and very camp and gay at V!
Caleb also did some gay little dance move with his arm in one song. He looks pretty uncomfortable trying to do rehearsed stage moves. Maybe he missed his chance with Westlife so he's trying to make up for it now?
No need, no need.
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