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Post by Ima Robot on Dec 25, 2003 23:16:26 GMT
Hey peoples there is a new film out over here in notso bonny Canada called Stuck on You. Yeah well anyways dont know if it is out in the UK yet but they play 3 kings of leon songs if I can remeber rightly - Mollys Chambers, Holy Roller Novocaine and California Waiting!!! They're getting famous over here now? Whatcha think? Just thought I would clue you in.
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Post by i shouldn't be here on Dec 26, 2003 0:25:17 GMT
I havn't heard of the film, but that's really great that they are gettng recognition finally in America (as a continent)
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Post by sarah on Dec 26, 2003 10:45:46 GMT
oh, thats the new farrelly brothers film, oui? it looks REALLYstoopid but yay for the kings on the soundtrack. I wonder how big they'll be this time next year? Scary, innit?
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Post by i shouldn't be here on Dec 26, 2003 15:15:54 GMT
Just a tad! Their status has grown so much already in such a small space of time, that it is quite scary to consider how much more there popularity could grow (and more than likely will). They must be exhausted though, how long has it been now that they have been on tour for? .... Since May or something isn't it?!
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Post by Ima Robot on Dec 26, 2003 20:04:33 GMT
Yeah it's the new Farrelly brothers film, it was very stupid but rather funny. I hope they get recognised over here cause I really want to see them live and nobody knows them it's so sad its stuck in a rut here with all that rap and bad pop. Oh well im not going to rant. Sorry about that ....
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Post by i shouldn't be here on Dec 26, 2003 20:22:42 GMT
No, you rant! I feel sorry for you having to suffer bad pop and rap. Britain has it's bad pop etc but we also have the decent bands to, to equal it out... thank God! I hope you get to see them, they are getting better and better.
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Post by ohhi on Dec 26, 2003 20:34:39 GMT
Aw thanks, I won't tho I get angry and carried away and then everyone hates me for being angry. But there arent even any good bands to even things out. Just crap punk Canadian wanna bes and it's tres tres annoying cause everyone loves them then thinks they are punk cause they listen and dress like them. I hate them all. But on the bright side I registered!!!!
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Post by i shouldn't be here on Dec 26, 2003 21:31:59 GMT
Aw thanks, I won't tho I get angry and carried away and then everyone hates me for being angry. I know what u mean!
When rock music started to get big ovr here again, I got really pissed off initially with it because, the new scene was heralded by bands like the offspring and limp bizkit, etc etc. Bands that appear to have more interest in making music as a career than an art form and are more interested in copying a style as opposed to trying to have an opinion behind their music and tryin to do something different with it.
Bands that are shallow are short lived but create (often) a lot of interest. Which is saddening, but in the end i realised sum of those 11yr old kids who were walking around in slipknot tops oblivious of what it was all about would grow up and discover for themselves how shit the music they were listening to was and eventually get the hunger for the decent music and go out and find it! These 'rock' bands are shit, but it's better, i think, sometimes to get a kid into rock music, even if it's shit than pop, because if u get just one kid into rock than you are getting them that bit closer to finding the good bands.
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Post by ohhi on Dec 27, 2003 3:05:30 GMT
Yeah that's true cause that happened to my cousin and I guess me too but I got into music before that whole nu-metal thing took off but it was because of that I looked into different bands and stuff. It's just that here everyone thinks that bands like good charlotte and simple plan and everyone like them Are The Real Thing so they don't know anything else to whats played on the radio. Which is terribly sad too. Plaus nobody except Snoop Dog and Sum 41 come and play here which doesnt help at all. Rant over, you're all safe now
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Post by i shouldn't be here on Dec 27, 2003 15:38:39 GMT
Sometimes I feel like musically educating the world, not to say I know all there is to know. Obviously not! But i know where to start and i know in which direction to follow.
I would get so frustrated if I lived where you do! I really do feel sorry for you! But, i guess if there is only the radio which is just churning out crap songs, then you gotta discover the goods bands by yourself and that can often be a hell of a lot more fun. You know how some people say books are what they live for? Well I live for music and when I started to get into modern music I found out about it for myself and it was great because no one was there to tell you what to like and what not to like, it felt like it was your own thing because of that. BUt i was against modern music for a hell of a long time, I didn't see the point in it when i could just listen to some vinyl. My dad got me into Neil Young, Stones, The BAnd, Crosby, Stills and NAsh ( i still miss that album!! deja vu .. i think it's called but i havn't heard it in like 3 years!) he had a gd vinyl collection and it was the only way we could bond so .. we did! But i tell you the band that did finally bring me back to (or restore my faith in) modern rock was the Strokes then people like Turin Brakes, White Stripes (just decent bands who had decent albums around two years ago). Despite recognising some of the influences I didn't care anymore because, like in our generation everything HAS been done but I think what our generation does so well is the way that they craft the way that they approach their music rather than actually making substantial differences with their sound.
That's why when i talk to sum of my friends who own a record store where i study and they say they don't like Kings b/c it's all been done before, it annoys me because that is quite a narrow minded way of looking at it all. Yeah there are influences there, like there are with every other band but they make it their own and not just a copy because they put themselves into it and their own ideas and stories. That's why there is no point listening to music if you are gonna judge it against another band because you should take a band for who they are and not who there influences are. At the end of the day you either like aband or you don't.
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Post by Lilyrose on Dec 27, 2003 19:01:40 GMT
That's why when i talk to sum of my friends who own a record store where i study and they say they don't like Kings b/c it's all been done before, it annoys me because that is quite a narrow minded way of looking at it all. Yeah there are influences there, like there are with every other band but they make it their own and not just a copy because they put themselves into it and their own ideas and stories. That's why there is no point listening to music if you are gonna judge it against another band because you should take a band for who they are and not who there influences are. At the end of the day you either like aband or you don't.You're so right. When I showed my sister and her boy-friend the kings and played the CD, they were just like "Why don't you buy the cheap CDs from the seventies, they sound the same and are original?" That argument sucks and I didn't want to discuss with skatepunks about that and just told them the old bands wouldn't exist anymore and by the way I always only go to concerts because of the boys... I hate these strange looks when you love the music but because you're a girl, it must be about the singer or so... But back to the kings, after the gig my father, who really liked them, said they played the rock from the beat clubs but with the tempo(?) of 2003. I like that formulation somehow.
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Post by ohhi on Dec 28, 2003 0:38:22 GMT
I feel exactly the same way!! I do get frustrated but try not to let it bug me. I still buy all the UK music mags and pass them on the all my friends and they have definatly started to like a lot more varied types of music. It is so much fun to find new bands and then tell loads of people about them cause it's like their yours, but thats just me being a kid but you know what I mean Anyways I think it's better to like any kind of music without letting other people tell you what to like (like starbelly said) and that if you like it then cool get on with it and like them but dont force your tastes onto other people cause that is terrily annoying but also tell people about these bands cause they might like them and then thank you in the end. I hope this all makes sense I was in a hurry to type it out but oh well. I hope you get it.
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Post by i shouldn't be here on Dec 28, 2003 14:02:11 GMT
when you love the music but because you're a girl, it must be about the singer or so... I HATE that!! It's so shallow! I think some people have a problem understanding the concept of appreciating someones talent and fancying them. Some people can only understand that you like a person simply because of the way they look. I know for me personally when I like a guy and it's just based on their looks, I never fancy them for very long because there isn't anything to sustain your interest.
I'm really glad your dad likes KoL though, I know a couple of people who's parents like the band. My mum is denial! haha She prefers the ep to the album, she says the sound on the album isn't as smooth as the ep. Which is true, but I like the lack of slick. It's more honest.
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Post by i shouldn't be here on Dec 28, 2003 14:16:43 GMT
Yeah it is a kid-ish way of looking or feeling about it, but everyone has the kid inside of them and so we all know what it’s like to have something special and ‘yours’. B/c to me that’s how music works, when you like a band or a song it has a slightly different effect on everyone and because it effects you differently it becomes a little bit your own because you can have the greatest song in the world but if there isn’t anyone there to listen to it then the song becomes pointless. The listener to me is equally as important as the song, therefore it does become a little bit your own because everyone thinks differently and perceives songs differently, that’s where I think the ‘your own’ comes from, because two people will never have precisely the same opinion on a song. Music is special but when you add someone to listen to it and appreciate it, it becomes so much more than a song, it becomes I don’t know what to be honest with you but it becomes this whole other thing that is beautiful and should never be messed with!
You're right to not let it bug you, because I used to and you realise in the end, there isn't anything you can do about the existence of these shit bands, the only thing you can do is like you say pass the word on about the quality bands and try and get more peope into those bands, so eventually you have a smaller market for the shit bands and a larger market for the quality bands. That's the only way you can get rid of shit music, because it's really sickening but the shit bands that do become popular are due to fashion and because they are supplying a market. You ent got the market there you ent got the shit music! It's just about demanding decent music and not putting up with the shit.
I'm glad you buy the UK music mags, because Britain isn't perfect .. at all! but our musical history has given us the opportunity to do this whole 'demanding' thing, b/c we know what has been nbefore and we know what's good and what's shit (well the people worth listening to anyway and not those who just suck Americas arse! ... but i refuse to get onto the subject of how the UK is slowly becoming a mini US .. it pisses me off enough at the best of times!)
Yeah! you do make sense and yeah I do understand *hugs* .. I know how that feels too.
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Post by ohhi on Dec 28, 2003 17:43:09 GMT
Thanks! I'm all ranted out. It's very fun to be a kid. Ta very much for the hug I needed that *hugs back* lalalalala I'm off now, cause I'm happy..........
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