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Post by ticboo on Feb 21, 2009 10:42:55 GMT
Not gonna comment on the truth or otherwise of the 'news story' itself other than to say Kim's comments make sense to me.
There is one point I want to make : there is a view expressed in this thread, not by everyone by any means, that physical violence between siblings is natural, and an implication (perhaps by omission and not intended) that that is ok; and that being drunk leading to violence (it is violence) is just one of those things too - natural.
Firstly let me say that I have fought, physically, with siblings, on rare occassions as a child and drink of course is behind some violence - that's the real world. Frankly, if an adult resorts to fighting, drunk or otherwise that's not a good thing. It should be something to regret and try not to repeat. There is nothing good about it, or even excusable. I'm a bit worried that overall this thread seems to convey that it's ok. If someone gets drunk and fights they are behaving like an asshole.
I'm not getting at individuals, or even judging band members, just commenting on the thread.
EDIT: and just to make sure no one gets the wrong end of the stick here - I'm not that interested in what the kings get up to - it's their lives and their stuff to sort out
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Post by rockchick26 on Feb 21, 2009 11:16:23 GMT
Not gonna comment on the truth or otherwise of the 'news story' itself other than to say Kim's comments make sense to me. There is one point I want to make : there is a view expressed in this thread, not by everyone by any means, that physical violence between siblings is natural, and an implication (perhaps by omission and not intended) that that is ok; and that being drunk leading to violence (it is violence) is just one of those things too - natural. Firstly let me say that I have fought, physically, with siblings, on rare occassions as a child and drink of course is behind some violence - that's the real world. Frankly, if an adult resorts to fighting, drunk or otherwise that's not a good thing. It should be something to regret and try not to repeat. There is nothing good about it, or even excusable. I'm a bit worried that overall this thread seems to convey that it's ok. If someone gets drunk and fights they are behaving like an asshole. I'm not getting at individuals, or even judging band members, just commenting on the thread. EDIT: and just to make sure no one gets the wrong end of the stick here - I'm not that interested in what the kings get up to - it's their lives and their stuff to sort out Ooh Mandy!  You've got a lot of courage for posting this and bringing up a side of this no one has mentioned. Well said! I agree,it's THEIR lives. It shouldn't even be in the news if it isn't about music. But,thats the media for ya...making mountains out of mole hills and giving all the gossipers a reason to buy their magazines. The media...a necessary tool but a double edged sword. |
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Post by morag on Feb 21, 2009 12:55:57 GMT
Not gonna comment on the truth or otherwise of the 'news story' itself other than to say Kim's comments make sense to me. There is one point I want to make : there is a view expressed in this thread, not by everyone by any means, that physical violence between siblings is natural, and an implication (perhaps by omission and not intended) that that is ok; and that being drunk leading to violence (it is violence) is just one of those things too - natural. Firstly let me say that I have fought, physically, with siblings, on rare occassions as a child and drink of course is behind some violence - that's the real world. Frankly, if an adult resorts to fighting, drunk or otherwise that's not a good thing. It should be something to regret and try not to repeat. There is nothing good about it, or even excusable. I'm a bit worried that overall this thread seems to convey that it's ok. If someone gets drunk and fights they are behaving like an asshole. I'm not getting at individuals, or even judging band members, just commenting on the thread. EDIT: and just to make sure no one gets the wrong end of the stick here - I'm not that interested in what the kings get up to - it's their lives and their stuff to sort out you should have just said who you were practicly quoting there pet!!! its obviouse enough!!! im not condoning violence in my ealier post, i am simply stating that it happens, its natural, its life, and as much as the kings look godlike, well they just aint, and its going to happen!!! its one of those things that happens in ife.lifes not all pink and fluffy now is it!!! |
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Post by seaurchin on Feb 21, 2009 13:55:50 GMT
Different topic, but LOL is Jared actually mimicking Caleb's first words?   NOO! thats really funny it looks like he is but he's just asking for a mic |
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Post by ticboo on Feb 21, 2009 15:12:58 GMT
Not gonna comment on the truth or otherwise of the 'news story' itself other than to say Kim's comments make sense to me. There is one point I want to make : there is a view expressed in this thread, not by everyone by any means, that physical violence between siblings is natural, and an implication (perhaps by omission and not intended) that that is ok; and that being drunk leading to violence (it is violence) is just one of those things too - natural. Firstly let me say that I have fought, physically, with siblings, on rare occassions as a child and drink of course is behind some violence - that's the real world. Frankly, if an adult resorts to fighting, drunk or otherwise that's not a good thing. It should be something to regret and try not to repeat. There is nothing good about it, or even excusable. I'm a bit worried that overall this thread seems to convey that it's ok. If someone gets drunk and fights they are behaving like an asshole. I'm not getting at individuals, or even judging band members, just commenting on the thread.
EDIT: and just to make sure no one gets the wrong end of the stick here - I'm not that interested in what the kings get up to - it's their lives and their stuff to sort out you should have just said who you were practicly quoting there pet!!! its obviouse enough!!! im not condoning violence in my ealier post, i am simply stating that it happens, its natural, its life, and as much as the kings look godlike, well they just aint, and its going to happen!!! its one of those things that happens in ife.lifes not all pink and fluffy now is it!!! Morag, I was not 'practically quoting' or refering to your post specifically. You're not the only person who said something along those lines, that siblings fight and drink sometimes leads to violence and that it's a part of life. I am not disagreeing with you there at all - I've highlighted the part of my post in which I ALSO made the same point. I've also highlighted other parts you may have glossed over. I did try in my post to be clear that I was making a point about the tone of the thread , during which at no point did anyone actually say that fighting people when you are drunk is behaving like an asshole. I wasn't making a judgement on the attitudes of any individual on violence - I wouldn't presume to do that about people I do not or only slightly know and whose opinion I've never heard. I assume that most people do not condone violence, however, having read the ocassional post on HA where a few individuals clearly believe it is 'big and clever', or cool, or sexy, or 'rock and roll' I felt a point was worth making. Morag - you may not have meant it this way but your post seems patronising. If I intended to respond to your post specifically, believe me I would have said so - I don't play games like that. It seems that you are making an assumption that I'm naive and also that I'm making assumptions about you personally. If you're basing that on my previous post please read it again. |
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Post by schnucams on Feb 22, 2009 4:43:52 GMT
Mattman, lack of lady attention!! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Gimme a break  Anyhoo, fighting I believe!! Reason none of our beeswax!!! Caleb a c**t!! I dont agree!! |
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