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Post by pi on Jul 4, 2008 15:48:06 GMT
That was blunter than James Blunt.
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Post by Pex On Fire- on Jul 4, 2008 17:17:06 GMT
nathan ones said: you cannot do the same thing over 3 records and i'm totally with that. i love to see them develop even if it means that probably more people will know them and more people will like them (not for sure..) but i'm proud that i have the opportunity to grow with this band. well, thats how i feel. i love this band and their music. I hear that completely and also respect they guys for it. I'm not dissing the guys at all, merely saying that it's a shame that their sound and my musical taste are going in different directions. I'm going to listen to the album with an open mind and you never know, I might love it. If I don't, I don't but it won't stop me enjoying YAYM ASH and half of BOTT as much as I do. The only shame is that it's likely that people will be calling them sellouts after this album. But they're damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they produced 4 of the same album's people would be questioning their talent and ambition. If they grow, challenge themselves and try for a more established sound. They "Sell Out". I'm still looking forward to OBTN though  |
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Post by anners on Jul 4, 2008 18:09:40 GMT
Without being too blunt, if you like the sound of Y&YM and ASH over BOTT and potentially the new album, then listen to them? i like the gip of your groove ben |
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Post by bmrc (kari) on Jul 4, 2008 18:40:23 GMT
Hi, hello, newbie here. Well, been reading updates for some time, but finally decided to sign up. Anyway, I was just wondering where (and if) this article you all talk about is located, looked for it at the NME page, but with no luck. So thanks in advance, I promise I'll actually say something here from now on instead of just lurking.  |
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Post by andyhudson12 on Jul 4, 2008 19:58:26 GMT
I think the first thing that struck me about this thread is the way so many people have so much love for Youth... and Aha... and that Because... isn't regarded quite so highly. In my opinion, Kings aren't a band you can compare albums with, each one so far has been a progression and as a result each one is different. Personally I couldn't even pick a favourite Kings album, as much as each one is distinctively their own sound, you could forgive a first-time listener for thinking it wasn't the same band who sang Trani and, for instance, Knocked Up (disregarding of course Caleb's vocals which you couldn't fail to recognise). The point I'm trying to make is that I think pessimism towards Only By The Night should be witheld until the release of the album, as far as I'm concerned they have never ever failed to disappoint and like someone above has said, change is by no means a bad thing. Kings are a band maturing and changing their sound in a more successful way than most bands around in the present climate. As for this stigma against "stadium rock" I think all prejudice in that vein is snobbish, however "big" music can be, the important thing is if it sounds good. As for the NME... let me just say their judgement (again in my opinion) is more than somewhat flawed and clouded by what they think they should or shouldn't like.
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Post by Bornagirl76 on Jul 4, 2008 20:00:17 GMT
Hi, hello, newbie here. Well, been reading updates for some time, but finally decided to sign up. Anyway, I was just wondering where (and if) this article you all talk about is located, looked for it at the NME page, but with no luck. So thanks in advance, I promise I'll actually say something here from now on instead of just lurking. Here ya go - happyalone.proboards47.com/index.cgi?board=kings&action=display&thread=6405Welcome to the forum - I read your post in the Columbia show thread, glad it inspired you to listen more to the Kings! |
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Post by anners on Jul 4, 2008 20:00:55 GMT
Hi, hello, newbie here. Well, been reading updates for some time, but finally decided to sign up. Anyway, I was just wondering where (and if) this article you all talk about is located, looked for it at the NME page, but with no luck. So thanks in advance, I promise I'll actually say something here from now on instead of just lurking. im pretty sure this is it happyalone.proboards47.com/index.cgi?board=kings&action=display&thread=6405&page=1 |
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Post by anners on Jul 4, 2008 20:01:49 GMT
WAHEY DOUBLE POST
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Post by Bornagirl76 on Jul 4, 2008 20:02:44 GMT
as far as I'm concerned they have never ever failed to disappoint Typo, Andy?   Other than that I agree with ya. I'm not remotely worried about Only By The Night. I can't fuckin' wait. If it disappoints, well...I've still got the first three. |
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Post by anners on Jul 4, 2008 20:03:46 GMT
I think the first thing that struck me about this thread is the way so many people have so much love for Youth... and Aha... and that Because... isn't regarded quite so highly. In my opinion, Kings aren't a band you can compare albums with, each one so far has been a progression and as a result each one is different. Personally I couldn't even pick a favourite Kings album, as much as each one is distinctively their own sound, you could forgive a first-time listener for thinking it wasn't the same band who sang Trani and, for instance, Knocked Up (disregarding of course Caleb's vocals which you couldn't fail to recognise). The point I'm trying to make is that I think pessimism towards Only By The Night should be witheld until the release of the album, as far as I'm concerned they have never ever failed to disappoint and like someone above has said, change is by no means a bad thing. Kings are a band maturing and changing their sound in a more successful way than most bands around in the present climate. As for this stigma against "stadium rock" I think all prejudice in that vein is snobbish, however "big" music can be, the important thing is if it sounds good. As for the NME... let me just say their judgement (again in my opinion) is more than somewhat flawed and clouded by what they think they should or shouldn't like. sorry bout the double post but i agree with the "I think pessimism towards Only By The Night should be witheld until the release of the album" thing. just wait til its out then go nuts with the opinions! haha although it is fun to speculate |
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Post by bmrc (kari) on Jul 4, 2008 21:56:23 GMT
Thanks guys. That was really nice of you, the two of you.  Just read the article. Glad to be one more of those fans they talk about in the US. Anyway, what's this 'karma' thing? I find it quite amusing. Cheers! |
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Post by caitlin on Jul 4, 2008 22:25:43 GMT
I'm not dissing the guys at all, merely saying that it's a shame that their sound and my musical taste are going in different directions. I'm going to listen to the album with an open mind and you never know, I might love it. If I don't, I don't but it won't stop me enjoying YAYM ASH and half of BOTT as much as I do. i love how you feel this way, me too exactly |
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Post by antroolez on Jul 10, 2008 0:58:02 GMT
i love creedence clearwater revival!
and john fogerty...seen him live twice
but anyways its all going to be good, nothin to worry about
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Post by newtonab on Jul 10, 2008 3:52:40 GMT
I think the first thing that struck me about this thread is the way so many people have so much love for Youth... and Aha... and that Because... isn't regarded quite so highly. In my opinion, Kings aren't a band you can compare albums with, each one so far has been a progression and as a result each one is different. Personally I couldn't even pick a favourite Kings album, as much as each one is distinctively their own sound, you could forgive a first-time listener for thinking it wasn't the same band who sang Trani and, for instance, Knocked Up (disregarding of course Caleb's vocals which you couldn't fail to recognise). The point I'm trying to make is that I think pessimism towards Only By The Night should be witheld until the release of the album, as far as I'm concerned they have never ever failed to disappoint and like someone above has said, change is by no means a bad thing. Kings are a band maturing and changing their sound in a more successful way than most bands around in the present climate. As for this stigma against "stadium rock" I think all prejudice in that vein is snobbish, however "big" music can be, the important thing is if it sounds good. As for the NME... let me just say their judgement (again in my opinion) is more than somewhat flawed and clouded by what they think they should or shouldn't like. I didn't even have to read more than five sentences to think, "yes." You hit the dot of the I in BiNGO! By the way, I stopped after reading 5 or so sentences.. I look at the kings as artists. This is kind of a bad analogy (but maybe not): Comparing different Kings albums is kind of like comparing two separate Monet's or Van Gogh's. But thats just me. There are certain bands where they just absolutely lose their talent once they hit a certain album. But I have a lot of faith in these guys, besides a love for their music. Just wait....I'd put money down tat this album is going to be even better than Because of the times.. |
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Post by pi on Jul 20, 2008 17:36:56 GMT
Well, I decided to give the manhattan youtube video a 2nd look, after being dissapointed first time. This time as soon as the riff came in it sounded fucking awesome, really pleased I got it so quickly. I knew dismissing them so quickly would be a massive mistake, and so it turned out to be, it sounded excellent. Ive got the bassline going round and round in my head.
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Post by whiskers on Jul 20, 2008 18:15:55 GMT
hiya, i've purposely not come into this thread because what i've noticed since i started listening to their music again recently is that they know what they're doing, possibly far more than what they let on sometimes but i have no worries for any future music, if they were to slip down a shiny slope i reckon they probably would have done it by now. they've always been ballsy with their creative decisions and they've always made it work. they keep getting better in my opinion, because of the times is an exceptional record. i'm just gonna enjoy the fact that they're around instead of worrying about any future direction. I'm really excited about where they're going.
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Post by whiskers on Jul 20, 2008 18:22:21 GMT
ok one last thing i just read about the new guitars being used for the old stuff. sorry but sometimes even i get bored of listening to the old yaym stuff and i'm not even the one playing them nearly every goddamn night!! don't you think it's kinda fun that as there style grows they're playing around with the old stuff, granted don't do it all the time but oh godddddddddddddddd! i'm in a pissy now cause of this stupid fooking thread.
it's like called creativity. and it ain't like they ain't giving you what you want. sorry i know this must feel like i'm directing this at you but i'm not i'm just frustrated with the otherside of this debate.
see this is why i didn't wanna come in here. now i have to delete all this.
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Post by bobeatsbobo on Jul 21, 2008 12:08:57 GMT
Lets face it every band will eventually put out a stinker but i doubt this will be the kings yet.
The best bands change and evolve in my opinion, My other favourite band is Radiohead and i love the way they've changed i only really listen to there newer 'weirder stuff' from Kid A to now. i'd love the kings to progress in a similar way (obviously not similar music though).
And about the guitars changing, Matt and caleb use the same guitars they did during alot of the touring for ASH, if they wanted to sound like they did they could, its there music its there choice.
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Post by jonathan88 on Jul 21, 2008 15:38:27 GMT
I reckon this one will be really awesome, another step in another direction!
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Post by Black Jeans on Jul 21, 2008 19:51:34 GMT
I think Groupielove said everything I wanted to say, and I could have stopped reading this thread at that point.
I found with the first two albums, I loved the songs the first time I heard them. I found BOTT a grower. I had to listen to it atleast 20 times before I could love the songs as much as the first two records, and even now, I don't so much.
But the first time I heard Manhatten & Crawl it was just like the old days. I loved them from the first hearing, so if the rest of the album is anyway as good as those two songs, then I think everyone on this board will be happy and have nothing to worry about.
And finally, Caleb's voice has changed so much over the years, that they wouldn't be able to make songs like they used to. Even when you hear him sing those old ones now, they sound so different. He'd need to go back to smoking 40 a day before we got that gravelly voice back.
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